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Poll: Recolonization of glassed worlds (Conjecture and Gameplay) (28 member(s) have cast votes)

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  1. Yes (17 votes [54.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 54.84%

  2. Maybe, depends how heavily glassed (12 votes [38.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.71%

  3. No (2 votes [6.45%])

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#1 Cole Protocol

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 08:35 PM

For those of you that picked none, I feel bad for you that you have not played Halo: Reach (or at least have not seen the ending). But back to the point. What do you think on the topic? I know its possible in at least one case (Reach) but also this was only partially glassed. As for planets glassed to rubble, (I.e. Harvest, Kholo, New harmony) do you think they were able to retake these planets from ecological collapse? I was also curious if glassed planets are colonizable in SotP. If so, how would it be different? I have heard little small rumors that glassing a planet when you are covenant will be the difference between life and death in a contested system, but I have no idea what on earth that means.



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Posted 03 December 2013 - 08:42 PM

Glassing is actually a temporary thing in the mod, though if enough ships glass a planet, it becomes worthless for resources and credits



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Posted 03 December 2013 - 08:46 PM

Temporary? not quite what i expected for such a defining thing for the covenant. Especially since i Heard from one of you guys earlier, that it was definitely planned, but alot can change in that time so what do I know.



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Posted 03 December 2013 - 08:48 PM

Well you saw how much Reach got Glassed, and yet they still recolonized it. with Terraforming, which is what I expect the UNSC to do


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Posted 03 December 2013 - 08:49 PM

in order to glass a planet the size of earth, the covenant would need to devote thousands of ships, and it would take many years. Glassing strategic targets only takes far less time, a few days to a few weeks, but does far less damage in the long run. Glassing in the mod reflects this. Also, there is gameplay to consider, since the covenant could glass every planet in a system and no one would be able to spread there if glassing prevented colonization permanently



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Posted 03 December 2013 - 09:19 PM

In the mod, could there be an ability to terraform a planet after it has been glassed? The ability would cost a lot in all resources and would slowly revert the planet's glassing effects(Be advised, my knowledge on modding and hardcoding in Sins is the equivilant of a sea otter's knowledge in automobile repair, so don't strike me down too hard if this is impossible).
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Posted 04 December 2013 - 04:48 AM

I would say so, but I like you am a sea otter. But if a planet is glass able in the first place. which practically changes the type of planet it is. the planet should be able to changed back. The question is if the devs want that to happen.



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 06:07 AM

I would say so, but I like you am a sea otter. But if a planet is glass able in the first place. which practically changes the type of planet it is. the planet should be able to changed back. The question is if the devs want that to happen.

Maybe have some sort of advanced terramforming research to reclaim glassed planets (if possible)? 


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#9 Cole Protocol

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 06:33 AM

Hard to say, hardcoading is particular like that. It may let you make a new planet but you might not be able to colonize it. Then again i could be wrong and probably am. But im hoping that it could be, having a reclaimed reach as a outpost with no Population would be cool.



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 07:01 AM

We are going with what defender said if we choose to do this.
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Posted 04 December 2013 - 09:01 AM

Ok well, that answers a few questions. But as far as outside of SotP. What challenges would there be for recolonization? radiation? Lack of water? Pollution? Effect on future populations? I think all of those would be hurdles to overcome.



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 09:16 AM

Ok well, that answers a few questions. But as far as outside of SotP. What challenges would there be for recolonization? radiation? Lack of water? Pollution? Effect on future populations? I think all of those would be hurdles to overcome.

you forgot one: atmospheric escape due to high intensity heat from the surface of the planet. In some extreme circumstances, a planet was glassed enough that the atmosphere literally boiled away.



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 09:34 AM

Ok, I did not know that. Would glassing also have some effect on the magnetic field of said planet? I have heard that the plasma is contained in a "magnetic bubble" then released. Thats how when Six gutted that CCS it exploded in glorious plasma.



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 09:52 AM

no, a planets magnetic field, if strong enough, actually messes with the aiming of plasma from covenant ships



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:48 AM

The main issue would be the reclaiming of land and water lost due to the bombardment. The land would come naturally however it would be slow. The water is a whole different problem as it was boiled away and is part of the atmosphere which is contaminated dude to the bombardment. Now when the surface temperature returns to "normal" the rain is going to be toxic. So you would have to purify both the atmosphere and the water of the planet. Not an easy task.
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Posted 04 December 2013 - 12:07 PM

True, But I disagree in how land would come back on its own. Remember how the land surrounding sword base was reduced to magma and UNSC scrap? I think that much tectonic or surface disruption would not go without having longterm damage that could not be restored by nature.



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 12:16 PM

True, But I disagree in how land would come back on its own. Remember how the land surrounding sword base was reduced to magma and UNSC scrap? I think that much tectonic or surface disruption would not go without having longterm damage that could not be restored by nature.

 

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 01:38 PM

True as that may be, i doubt the UNSC would want to wait 1,000,000 years while the planet sluggishly decides to come back to life.



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 09:55 AM

I voted all 3 with my phone. :P
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Posted 12 December 2013 - 10:02 AM

Funny how glassed planets act differently.

Harvest turned into an iceball,

Khlol turned into sand 

new llanelli truly was glass

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