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[Stephan-338]

So the flood is a parasite that wants to consume all sentient life in the universe, right?

The Forerunners took them out by firing the Halo rings and letting the Flood starve to death. But, if that's the way the flood dies, then how come they're still alive in some of the Halos and that also means that if you just let it consume everything, it destroys it's own food supply and dies anyway because there's nothing to feed on...

 

It just doesn't make that much sense to me, haha

 

What are your ideas on it, or did I miss something?

[Weh]

When the Flood consume everything in a galaxy, they move on to a different one.

http://halo.wikia.co...rgalactic_Stage

[SPECTRE]

http://halo.wikia.co...ki/Cold_Storage

[Stephan-338]

Ooh, thank you, I was suddenly wondering how they did, but it's still a stupid parasite, even if it moves to a different galaxy, they consume everything there, and so on and so on, so after a while, there would still be nothing left to consume and it'd die out

[Unikraken]

Ooh, thank you, I was suddenly wondering how they did, but it's still a stupid parasite, even if it moves to a different galaxy, they consume everything there, and so on and so on, so after a while, there would still be nothing left to consume and it'd die out

Yes. And? Your point?

[Stephan-338]

Merely gathering knowledge and interpreting it

[D4RKST0RM99]

Ooh, thank you, I was suddenly wondering how they did, but it's still a stupid parasite, even if it moves to a different galaxy, they consume everything there, and so on and so on, so after a while, there would still be nothing left to consume and it'd die out

I think you've just described life in general, this quote describing humanity explains it better-

"I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure."

[Stephan-338]

While that is true, I was thinking more about firing the Halos, which starved the Flood, but the Flood would have starved itself to death anyhow 

 

Unless, of course, you consider that the Flood would run over the entire galaxy, travel to another and do it to every galaxy that there is

[D4RKST0RM99]

While that is true, I was thinking more about firing the Halos, which starved the Flood, but the Flood would have starved itself to death anyhow 

 

Unless, of course, you consider that the Flood would run over the entire galaxy, travel to another and do it to every galaxy that there is

yes, considering their are a lot of galaxies out their, each with the potential for life to evolve.

[Moustachio86]

My question is exactly how are the rings supposed to cause the flood supposed to 'starve to death'? I mean, disregarding a very literal sense, I can get behind the idea the rings just kill everything and then you reseed the planets. But does the term 'starve' literally mean remove their food or just the biomass for them to use? Surely both are redundant because the pulse kills the flood too in any case. And if it's to prevent them from returning, why reseed? I just don't understand the use of the term.

[SPECTRE]

Is the question here exactly how the flood are supposed to 'starve to death'? I mean, I can get behind the idea the rings just kill everything and then you reseed the planets. But does the term 'starve' literally mean remove their food or just the biomass for them to use? Surely both are redundant because the pulse kills the flood too in any case. And if it's to prevent them from returning, why reseed? I just don't understand the use of the term.

Organic matter naturally deteriorates even when alive, i think the longest a human could theoretically live healthily for is about 700-800 years. that's when your skin would turn to dust then you'd get infections and blood would start dripping.

[Moustachio86]

That's a fair point, though I'm sure I've been told that Crocodiles are essentially immune to disease. But that's a digression.

Do we know how long after the firing was the reseeding? If it was like, hundreds or thousands of years then I guess that goes a good way to explaining it.

[Cmdr Daefaron]

They say the flood starves to death, HOWEVER, in the terminals they show the rings firing and literally destroying the flood biomass. I think it might mean that the spores have nothing to infect anymore?

 

And in halo 3, the ring firing kill the flood instantly. I think the starve bit might mean something more like "If we actually missed any flood, they can't spread."

[Aunt Gruntie]

In Halo 3 didn't the halo that fired pretty much explode anyways? That would certainly do the trick.

[D4RKST0RM99]

Spoiler

I saw this one a while back, the Halo 4 Rebirth audio file that tells of the events after Silentium narrated by Grag Bear himself.

[Shadowz081]

I think they retconned it...Due to a badly thought out plot...Or it could have been possible that Cortana misunderstood what the halos were capable of doing as it is the first 'known' forerunner construct as that was said in Halo CE...

 

Than there is also the undeniable fact that the flood was essentially the precursors in another form, which by the definition of the forerunners, were a tier 0 species and literally their 'gods' being the race who created them along with humans, which tried to wipe the forerunners out after deeming them 'unworthy' of the mantle and humans should be tested next. Forerunner found out, and tried to wipe out the precursors, succeeded to an extent, than the precursors decided to take revenge and took the form of the flood to, as spacebattle forums put it, troll the shit out of the forerunners. So in doing so they decided to turn themselves into a powderlike organic compound and put themselves in a random ship and let it drift through the milky way for no aparant reason, eventually a tier 1 human-san shyuum alliance found it, though I am not sure if this was an accident or if they did it on purpose, and began conducting expiriments on the powder. Eventually it was found to have a pacifying effect on pherus, a popular pet, and a popular delicacy among San shyuums, so they fed it to the pherus not knowing what it was. It took centuries for the flood to evolve, and when it finally got to that point...I think you can see what happens.

 

But anyways, ignoring the top bit, which is mostly irrelevent to this question, the flood being the precursors could have easily turned back to their original precursors form with the forerunner industry and the remaining precursor tech under their control, the flood was more or a mean to an end, they lacked the numbers but wanted to utterly slap the forerunners across the face, hence the flood, though I believe they didn't predict the halos, as that will be able to kill and possibly destroy anything with a significant nervous system or a brain, hence all known precursor tech, gravemind, keyminds, pure form, combat forms, and possibly even infection forms, leaving only free floating flood super cells at best, which could be easily cleaned up by sentinels, hence reverting the flood back to the feral stage, where they are basically zombies on steroids.