Concerning Covenant Ship Classification
#1
Posted 18 May 2015 - 06:08 PM
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Posted 18 May 2015 - 07:02 PM
You learn something new everyday. One thing to note, you forgot a few ships. Namely, SDV, RPV, RCS and ORS. Not sure if there was a reason behind that or not but hey, I'd let you know.
Another thing I noticed, the only ships classed 'Pious' are there two destroyer classes from what we know, CPV and RPV, so it might relate to that.
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#3
Posted 19 May 2015 - 04:06 AM
What about ships with same letters? Example: CCS, any theories on why 2 C's? Would love to hear em.
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#4
Posted 19 May 2015 - 04:20 AM
CCS is the only example but one thing to note is that C is for ships which are common and the CCS is THE most common ship, so it just could be showing that it is a VERY common ship, fielded in the hundreds.
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#5
Posted 19 May 2015 - 04:24 AM
You learn something new everyday. One thing to note, you forgot a few ships. Namely, SDV, RPV, RCS and ORS. Not sure if there was a reason behind that or not but hey, I'd let you know.
Another thing I noticed, the only ships classed 'Pious' are there two destroyer classes from what we know, CPV and RPV, so it might relate to that.
Whoops. K fixed the appropriate letters. Namely V and P. Thanks lol
CCS is the only example but one thing to note is that C is for ships which are common and the CCS is THE most common ship, so it just could be showing that it is a VERY common ship, fielded in the hundreds.
Essentially this, yes, so much this. CCS Cruisers are deployed in alarming volumes, the only comparable vessel being the CRS in terms of mass deployment.
EDIT: To elaborate further than the CCS on double letters, the only other ship to use double lettering is the DDS carrier. This, in my mind, cements that the DDS is a supportive carrier, not a flying hulk of death and doom you see on the CAS. For that reason, as detailed in books such as fall of Reach, it was used in slightly higher numbers if it was used when compared to the CAS, simply to actually make the flagships of the fleet actually comparable to a CAS or other large command vessel. As 3 of the craft lead 1 task force on Reach. Take 3 Assault carriers, and you just made that 1 fleet nearly double in strength. My point? My point really is that just because a ship does not have a C classification does not in turn mean it cannot be used in higher numbers, rather, it still relies on the net strength of the ship to determine this.
#6
Posted 19 May 2015 - 11:23 AM
To be honest, the double letters for CCS and DDS is a quite dull explanation.
E.g., U.S.S. Constitution truly is american, although it's United States Ships and not United States STATES!
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#7
Posted 19 May 2015 - 01:32 PM
To be honest, the double letters for CCS and DDS is a quite dull explanation.
E.g., U.S.S. Constitution truly is american, although it's United States Ships and not United States STATES!
That's because U.S.S. denotes the ownership of the vessel, not it's role type. Which, with a double term clarifies that it is more dedicated to it's own role than if it had but one letter. Still, I do see your point.
#8
Posted 20 May 2015 - 07:28 AM
Impressive work Cole, I always assumed these were English abbreviations for Covenant language abbreviations as you never hear one of the Covenant refer to them by CAS or CCS etc. (At least not what I recall). However it would seem I have learnt something very enlightening today. Great job yet again.
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Posted 20 May 2015 - 08:04 AM
#10
Posted 20 May 2015 - 08:21 AM
Impressive work Cole, I always assumed these were English abbreviations for Covenant language abbreviations as you never hear one of the Covenant refer to them by CAS or CCS etc. (At least not what I recall). However it would seem I have learnt something very enlightening today. Great job yet again.
I just throw this into the room then Conversion Salvation Ordained.
For that I point you to the cannon example, Ordained Reverence Salvation. Does that make any more sense either? No.
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Posted 20 May 2015 - 08:38 AM
I just wanted to say P L O T D E V I C EFor that I point you to the cannon example, Ordained Reverence Salvation. Does that make any more sense either? No.
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Posted 20 May 2015 - 08:41 AM
Ohh. Whoops thenI just wanted to say P L O T D E V I C E
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#13
Posted 20 May 2015 - 09:50 AM
I just throw this into the room then Plot Salvation Device.
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#14
Posted 20 May 2015 - 11:26 AM
I just wanted to say P L O T D E V I C E
Erm hurgh... Wazzitden? Someone said Plot Device?
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Posted 20 May 2015 - 11:27 AM
Erm hurgh... Wazzitden? Someone said Plot Device?
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Posted 20 May 2015 - 11:28 AM
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#17
Posted 20 May 2015 - 02:42 PM
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Posted 20 May 2015 - 03:02 PM
Well we don't currently know of any 'O' ships besides the ORS and the Plot Salvation Device so we can kind of assume that because it's a weapons mod on the ORS, there is no reason it can't be the same for that other ship.
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#19
Posted 20 May 2015 - 06:35 PM
But I guess the prophets would've confiscated such systems for use on their flagships.
#20
Posted 20 May 2015 - 06:59 PM
Hey Cole, you made a slight mistake in your post. In the news post you linked to, it says 'O' means a ship has a forerunner upgrade, but in the case of the ORS it was a weapon mod.
Whoops, noted and fixed.
There's no reason why it can't be something else, considering the size of the covenant's territory during the war. I doubt the covenant would only find weapon kits during their expansion.
But I guess the prophets would've confiscated such systems for use on their flagships.
QFT, while the Covenant did probably find a large amount of artifacts, they more than likely were, like you said, of a different variety than just weapons cores.
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