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#21 SternuS

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 08:17 AM

thank you for
Giving me an
Actual answer unlike someone... :P

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 08:19 AM

You
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suddenly less thankful after you just gave me that sass

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 10:00 AM

suddenly less thankful after you just gave me that sass


I'm more thankful, if that helps.
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#24 cagywhiterino

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 02:53 PM

I think this would
Be the right spot for this. Do you guys think you could add a Thanatos called the "Staff of Charon"? Like you did the "Mother of Invention"

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#25 Andy493

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 03:05 PM

With the arrival of the ORS will the UNSC Phoenix class assault ship gain any extra buffs or balancing towards the new covie cap ship? Such as more hp or more fighters?

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 04:00 PM

With the arrival of the ORS will the UNSC Phoenix class assault ship gain any extra buffs or balancing towards the new covie cap ship? Such as more hp or more fighters?

The Phoenix-class Assault Ship is in fact weaker compared to the public release; it cannot hope to stand up to the ORS, Shiva excluded. While more powerful than any UNSC frigate, it is by a notable margin the weakest UNSC capital ship. However, it does have more fighters now.


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#27 Andy493

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 04:02 PM

Ok at least it has more fighters that can help.

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 04:22 PM

The Phoenix-class Assault Ship is in fact weaker compared to the public release; it cannot hope to stand up to the ORS, Shiva included.

Fixed. I've lost against an ORS with a Shiva and several frigates backing the Phoenix up.

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#29 SternuS

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 02:13 AM

Honestly, I doubt even a Marathon and a Phoenix can beat an ORS, at even levels. The ORS is quite a pain in the ass for the UNSC.

 

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 03:49 AM

Honestly, I doubt even a Marathon and a Phoenix can beat an ORS, at even levels. The ORS is quite a pain in the ass for the UNSC.


 
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How many Autumns would you need for an even match with an ORS? All ships at the same level.
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#31 SternuS

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 04:42 AM

How many Autumns would you need for an even match with an ORS? All ships at the same level.

If we were to put a level 1 ORS against a level 1 Autumn, I'm quite sure the ORS would prevail. So I'd go with 2 Autumns with shivas. Without shivas, 3 Autumns. But there are many factors to include here, like fighters: how many fighters and how many bombers? I wouldn't know. One thing I'm quite certain is that 1 on 1, level 1, ORS wins.

Unless you give the Autumn the boarding party ability, of course.

 

(note to mods: in the ship stats file in the mod folder, I'm missing the UNSC. Don't know if forgot to put in or just not done yet.)


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Posted 27 August 2015 - 07:05 AM

If we were to put a level 1 ORS against a level 1 Autumn, I'm quite sure the ORS would prevail. So I'd go with 2 Autumns with shivas. Without shivas, 3 Autumns. But there are many factors to include here, like fighters: how many fighters and how many bombers? I wouldn't know. One thing I'm quite certain is that 1 on 1, level 1, ORS wins.

Unless you give the Autumn the boarding party ability, of course.

 

(note to mods: in the ship stats file in the mod folder, I'm missing the UNSC. Don't know if forgot to put in or just not done yet.)

Oki, goody then. Consider mer warned, the ORS is a bitch to take on.


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Posted 27 August 2015 - 07:10 AM

Unless you give the Autumn the boarding party ability, of course.

That should have no effect on it being that the ORS is a cap, that ability can only target frigs.



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Posted 27 August 2015 - 07:22 AM

That should have no effect on it being that the ORS is a cap, that ability can only target frigs.

Bloody heavens! You are right, I goofed a bit there.


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Posted 27 August 2015 - 08:44 AM

(note to mods: in the ship stats file in the mod folder, I'm missing the UNSC. Don't know if forgot to put in or just not done yet.)

It's a different sheet; look at bottom of the file and switch to the UNSC sheet.

 

How many Autumns would you need for an even match with an ORS? All ships at the same level.

It heavily depends on if the ORS has EMP hardening yet or not. If it does, Shivas will have no disabling effect, just do damage. Further, whether the Autumns are errr, beefier [ONI SECTION II CLEARANCE REQUIRED], has an impact as well. I imagine 2 can take it on, but I could be wrong.



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Posted 27 August 2015 - 09:53 AM

It's a different sheet; look at bottom of the file and switch to the UNSC sheet.

 

It heavily depends on if the ORS has EMP hardening yet or not. If it does, Shivas will have no disabling effect, just do damage. Further, whether the Autumns are errr, beefier [ONI SECTION II CLEARANCE REQUIRED], has an impact as well. I imagine 2 can take it on, but I could be wrong.

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