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[David0425]

during the livestream, uni said that the charon was the new siege frigate, so i was wondering if its combat abilities were increased or decreased? as well as the berlin's new role, if it has one.

[Moustachio86]

Berlin is now the diplomatic frigate. Renamed Geneva Envoy because... it's a touchy subject. It is likely to be replaced by a less intimidating model in the future. 

 

I don't think the Charon recieved any noticeable decrease to its combat abilities but the obvious change is that it now has siege capabilities. The ability to mass-produce planet-chompers is a powerful one but don't expect them to hold their own in combat. You're still best off jumping them in separately to your main combat fleet. 

[SPECTRE]

Another point will the stolly have a MAC, as it has in the canon?

[Defender0]

Another point will the stolly have a MAC, as it has in the canon?

yeah, that was never in question

[SPECTRE]

yeah, that was never in question

Can the Mac be used to take out fighters?

And i think the stolly will be the next big spam.

[Defender0]

Can the Mac be used to take out fighters?

And i think the stolly will be the next big spam.

why would a MAC ever be used to take out fighters? the stalwart will just have better AA. And, no, it wont be spammable

[SPECTRE]

why would a MAC ever be used to take out fighters? the stalwart will just have better AA. And, no, it wont be spammable

back in the 40s, it was inconceivable to fire a 5 inch naval gun against fighters, now its used all the time, more modern targeting programs, better rate of fire, shells that fire multiple projectiles. 

How will you stop it from being spammable?

[Defender0]

back in the 40s, it was inconceivable to fire a 5 inch naval gun against fighters, now its used all the time, more modern targeting programs, better rate of fire, shells that fire multiple projectiles. 

How will you stop it from being spammable?

MACs vs fighters is a stupidly wasteful use of ammunition

 

currently, there is no single UNSC ship you can spam in the mod and get an effective ship spam, this has been done intentionally

[Cole Protocol]

back in the 40s, it was inconceivable to fire a 5 inch naval gun against fighters, now its used all the time, more modern targeting programs, better rate of fire, shells that fire multiple projectiles. 

How will you stop it from being spammable?

Do the questions ever stop spectre?

[SPECTRE]

Do the questions ever stop spectre?

The questions should NEVER stop.

[sloosecannon]

why would a MAC ever be used to take out fighters? the stalwart will just have better AA. And, no, it wont be spammable

RvB. That is all. lol.

 

But yeah, MAC vs fighters is just... stupid. That's not gonna happen in the mod.

The stalwart will be spammable just as much as any other UNSC frigate. And spamming just the stalwart will get you killed. Just like any other UNSC frigate...

[HTRK74JR]

Just spam prowlers against the stalwarts, you should win.

[Unikraken]

Fleet composition is critcal in SotP.

[XtremeRoflcopter]

Fleet composition is critcal in SotP.

Tell that to a maxed fleet of heavy frigates with max upgrades. 

[SPECTRE]

Fleet composition is critcal in SotP.

[XtremeRoflcopter]

Because those two mako's can provide sufficient anti-fighter/bomber protection xD

[SPECTRE]

Because those two mako's can provide sufficient anti-fighter/bomber protection xD

Na they were just in system to try and counter the amount of eions found there.

[Unikraken]

This from our year old pre-alpha? lol, because yeah, that's totally relevant.

[SPECTRE]

This from our year old pre-alpha? lol, because yeah, that's totally relevant.

It was hilarious, the Ai kept sending ship after ship at me, repair them good as new with the cradles.

[Kevik70]

back in the 40s, it was inconceivable to fire a 5 inch naval gun against fighters, now its used all the time, more modern targeting programs, better rate of fire, shells that fire multiple projectiles. 

How will you stop it from being spammable?

Actually this statement is incorrect, 5 inch dual purpose naval guns were used against naval, ground and air targets all the time. The proximity fuse was invented in the forties and used by the US Navy against attacking fighters and bombers. 

 

The Fletcher class destroyer had 5 5in dual purpose guns, a ship like the Iowa had 20 5in guns (mounted in 10 turrets)

 

 

 

Among naval historians, the 5"/38 gun is considered the best intermediate-caliber,^[4] dual purpose naval gun of World War II,^[5] especially when it was usually under the control of the advanced Mark 37 Gun Fire Control System which provided accurate and timely firing solutions against surface and air targets. Even this advanced system required nearly 1000 rounds of ammunition expenditure per aircraft kill.^[6] However, the planes were normally killed by shell fragments and not direct hits; barrage fire was used, with many guns firing in the air at the same time. This would result in large walls of shell fragments being put up to take out one or several planes or in anticipation of an unseen plane, this being justifiable as one plane was capable of significant destruction. The comparatively high rate of fire for a gun of its calibre earned it an enviable reputation, particularly as an anti-aircraft weapon, in which role it was commonly employed by United States Navy vessels.

 

http://en.wikipedia....class_destroyer

 

 

http://en.wikipedia..../38_caliber_gun