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[D4RKST0RM99]

They may not have colonized many planets. They may have been wiped out so easily because of some kind of minimalistic choice on their part. 

Strange that was also mentioned in Silentium,

Spoiler

" The last physically intact humans arrived on Erde-Tyrene. They were very few, much fewer than I had planned. Almost immediately, I began my program of rebuilding their populations—away from the critical eye of the Master Builder, the Council, and even the Didact.
In this familiar environment, my humans thrived. In fact, they demonstrated an astonishing, almost supernatural resilience. To the shock of my Lifeworkers, the reverted humans bred to more and more advanced forms over just a thousand years, diverging into distinct varieties like a bush blooming with a thousand brilliant flowers. Their numbers grew as well, from thousands to hundreds of thousands to millions.
I could not explain this effect. I sought for it in their genetics, and found nothing. Was there something else at work here—something that had somehow remained hidden from us?
My humans soon gathered into bands, tribes, villages. Tilled the soil and raised crops. Took wolves and goats and sheep, cattle, birds, and charmed them into domestication. Made many tools, developed crude trade and industry.
Within a thousand years, some of them reminded me of the Lord of Admirals. Others—of the wise-eyed children . . .
I kept their extraordinary progress hidden from the Old Council and the Builders. I did not tell my husband. Erde-Tyrene was far outside the usual runnels of Forerunner commerce. I removed my Lifeworkers, trimming their numbers to a few, and then, to none. The planet became a forgotten backwater."

Seems we are the exception when it comes to exploding population numbers, least for a evolved mamalian species so not every race has to spread over every inch of the galaxy so.......

as a race are we hoarders?

[SternuS]

as a race are we hoarders?

History would teach us so, but then...why should we have inherited the Mantle?

Forerunners protected life; we used, and are still using it, to accomplish our will. We take care of what is suitable for us, for our subsistence, and we wipe out what is unnecessary or dangerous, careless of the consequences.

 

Why did Precursors choose us?

[D4RKST0RM99]

History would teach us so, but then...why should we have inherited the Mantle?

Forerunners protected life; we used, and are still using it, to accomplish our will. We take care of what is suitable for us, for our subsistence, and we wipe out what is unnecessary or dangerous, careless of the consequences.

 

Why did Precursors choose us?

It's more like they tested the Forerunners- they failed and deemed unworthy of carrying the Mantle then humanity is next to be tested, this was more or less revealed in Primordium between the Timeless One and the Iso-Didact after its capture and before its execution, after a hundred and one thousand centuries the flood would return.

[SPECTRE]

History would teach us so, but then...why should we have inherited the Mantle?

Forerunners protected life; we used, and are still using it, to accomplish our will. We take care of what is suitable for us, for our subsistence, and we wipe out what is unnecessary or dangerous, careless of the consequences.

 

Why did Precursors choose us?

Perhaps because they knew the forerunners would eventually slaughter them in genocide.

[SternuS]

It's more like they tested the Forerunners- they failed and deemed unworthy of carrying the Mantle then humanity is next to be tested, this was more or less revealed in Primordium between the Timeless One and the Iso-Didact after its capture and before its execution, after a hundred and one thousand centuries the flood would return.

 

How did the Forerunners fail? In the book there is written that the Flood is some sort of a test; but Ancient Humans faced the Flood before the Forerunners. The Flood is the "evolution" of the Precursors, who have been hunted by the Forerunners. The Forerunners (thousands of years before they met Humans) committed a patricide because they were not chosen as inheritors of the Mantle. They were not chosen because they failed...a test?

Perhaps because they knew the forerunners would eventually slaughter them in genocide.

They knew they would've been killed, eventually.

I mean, you can be the dumbest/smartest intelligence ever, but you DON'T create something that you know for sure it'll murder you. You just don't.

[SPECTRE]

I mean, you can be the dumbest/smartest intelligence ever, but you DON'T create something that you know for sure it'll murder you. You just don't.

The children of failing empires. That is all.

[HolyMith]

I'm pretty sure the only viable way they could have been defeated is if the Precursors were very few in number, and they created the Forerunners. The Forerunners then multiplied rapidly and the Precursors (not wanting to intervene) allowed them to forge a powerful empire. The Forerunners caught them with their pants down because they never truly believed they would turn against them. The Forerunners also must have wiped them out quickly to stop them fleeing to other galaxies, as they were supposedly capable of doing.

Another thing that confused me is that all record of the war with the Precursors was lost. A civilisation that grows to that level of organisation and development does not lose so much data, and important data at that.

[D4RKST0RM99]

I'm pretty sure the only viable way they could have been defeated is if the Precursors were very few in number, and they created the Forerunners. The Forerunners then multiplied rapidly and the Precursors (not wanting to intervene) allowed them to forge a powerful empire. The Forerunners caught them with their pants down because they never truly believed they would turn against them. The Forerunners also must have wiped them out quickly to stop them fleeing to other galaxies, as they were supposedly capable of doing.
Another thing that confused me is that all record of the war with the Precursors was lost. A civilisation that grows to that level of organisation and development does not lose so much data, and important data at that.

You should really read Silentium, it answers a lot of your questions but still leaves enough mystery for future stories.

[HolyMith]

I think all 3 of the eventualities, are viable. And most likely it would be a mix of the 3.

Especially the last one.

So you mean most of them weren't aggressive, so they left the galaxy, the ones that remained were aggressive but very few in number so they got crushed. We shall have to wait and see if the canon sources elaborate more on this in the future. I can see now how it COULD have happened, but it would have to be a set of very unlikely advantages for the Forerunners.

[HolyMith]

You should really read Silentium, it answers a lot of your questions but still leaves enough mystery for future stories.

Also, I have ordered it on Amazon and it should be here next week

[D4RKST0RM99]

Also, I have ordered it on Amazon and it should be here next week

I have on my ipad and was trying to post the relevent paragraph but now have issues with that option, still it be best I dont spoil too much

still a good read. Have u read the others in the series, Silentium is the concluding story of the 3.

[HolyMith]

I have on my ipad and was trying to post the relevent paragraph but now have issues with that option, still it be best I dont spoil too much

still a good read. Have u read the others in the series, Silentium is the concluding story of the 3.

Yeah I have read Cryptum and Primordium. Been a while though, so I may re-read Primordium before going on to Silentium. I'll post back in three weeks when I have finished Silentium. I may have a changed opinion by then

[SPECTRE]

After reading silentium i really want to know what catalog looks like.

Also is it Silent-ium

or silen-shum?

[D4RKST0RM99]

After reading silentium i really want to know what catalog looks like.

Also is it Silent-ium

or silen-shum?

I've assumed the first one since its also Primor- dium, silent- ium, normally its the combination of two words like Crypt and Sanctum= Cryptum, more to do with the meaning than just the spelling.

[SternuS]

After reading silentium i really want to know what catalog looks like.

Also is it Silent-ium

or silen-shum?

It's Latin, the "t" is soft. Like "propagation", "reproduction".