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#1 Emperorfluffball

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Posted 13 April 2015 - 06:25 PM

so i was reading up on the Valiant and it seems that the current build in game doesn't do it justice, although admittedly I only research it so i can get Orions on the field.
could someone from the Devs or the lucky few that are playtesters post the Statistics of the valiant or explain why the valiant seems to have such a narrow role when it was capable or much more than just command and control. from what i've read other than the Orion its the closest thing the UNSC has to a battleship


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#2 Emperorfluffball

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Posted 13 April 2015 - 06:28 PM

And a little off topic but a good question to ask? will the Poseidon Class Light carrier be added to the game along with the Vindication class Light Battleship?
they are canon having been part of Battlegroup Dakota in Halo 4. Its the Battlegroup that was sent to intercept the Mantle's Approach


“Listen to me, Covenant. I am Vice Admiral  Preston J. Cole commanding the human flagship, Everest You claim to be the holy and glorious inheritors of the universe? I spit on your so-called holiness. You dare judge us unfit? After I have personally sent more than three hundred of your vainglorious ships to hell? After kicking your collective butts off Harvest - not once - but twice? From where I sit, we are the worthy inheritors. You think otherwise, you can come and try to prove me wrong. Is that the best you can do? Watch what one unworthy human can do!”

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Posted 13 April 2015 - 06:29 PM

Nope. Neither.
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Posted 13 April 2015 - 10:11 PM

Valiant is fairly good for its cost/supply. Good armor/hull, beefier than most of the capital ships, acts as C&C, I think it's pretty decent. There is always room for improvement though, but I honestly can't comment since I haven't played the revised build (if it's even done yet).

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 12:35 AM

The Valiant always had, in my opinion (and in my fleets), a position of command and control over the fleet, with a decent dps and hull. It always lasted enough in battles to give me some buffs and to allow me to target priority ships.

 

I've never built more than one-two per fleet, honestly the Marathon (and later the Autumn) can decisely provide more fire power and duration than the Valiant (also in terms of cost/supply). You shouldn't use it as a first-line battlecruiser. Keep it in the back and provide a little micro.


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Posted 14 April 2015 - 08:37 AM

The Valiant always had, in my opinion (and in my fleets), a position of command and control over the fleet, with a decent dps and hull. It always lasted enough in battles to give me some buffs and to allow me to target priority ships.

 

I've never built more than one-two per fleet, honestly the Marathon (and later the Autumn) can decisely provide more fire power and duration than the Valiant (also in terms of cost/supply). You shouldn't use it as a first-line battlecruiser. Keep it in the back and provide a little micro.

^This sums it up really.

 

Additionally, the Valiant, to my knowledge anyway, appeared only once in the lore. Which would be the UNSC Everest (Cole's ship). So having it sparsely used in ratio to other cruisers, such as the Marathon, reflects how the UNSC uses it in lore. As for the 1 Valiant in the fleet there was roughly 12 other cruisers during Cole's battle Psi Serpentis. 

 

As for the other ships... not happening. They clash with aesthetics and we already have a overflowed ship roster.


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Posted 15 April 2015 - 05:39 PM

I get the feeling the sole reason those H4 ships exist in lore is that for 4 years after halo 3 the UNSC had next to no ships to defend its territories so it hastily rushed together some crudely designed ships just to fill out their numbers, they in no way reflect the natural progression in the design lineage you would expect from the classic designs. I'm so sure those h4 ships started off as a loose crayon scribble stuck to the fridge door of a 343I employee marked- "James- age 4".


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