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#1 TheOtherXtremeRoflcopter

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 07:26 AM

After some thought I realized that it seems a bit for a Berlin to have a mac gun. It's a siege frigate that is meant to carry heavy ordance to bombard enemy planets and that wouldn't leave alot of room for a MAC. Personally I would like to see them without a MAC but let the debate begin!
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 07:48 AM

Heavy siege ordinance and MAC guns don't have to be mutually exclusive. Plus you'd want the Berlin to be able to defend itself against other ships. I'd say keep 'em both.
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:11 AM

After some thought I realized that it seems a bit for a Berlin to have a mac gun. It's a siege frigate that is meant to carry heavy ordance to bombard enemy planets and that wouldn't leave alot of room for a MAC. Personally I would like to see them without a MAC but let the debate begin!


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:33 AM

...Yeah do you really not want to give every ship some kind of ship to ship weapon against the covenant?
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:36 AM

*reads title of topic* my berlins guns arent shooting MACs, is my game broken?
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:39 AM

You have to break the fleet in orbit before you can move in to safely bombard. I don't think UNSC Command would ever make another ship that doesn't have a MAC that isn't a stealth ship.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:45 AM

You have to break the fleet in orbit before you can move in to safely bombard. I don't think UNSC Command would ever make another ship that doesn't have a MAC that isn't a stealth ship.


Or the mako, which has a role where a MAC would hinder it most likely

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 09:45 AM

To be honest the mako is a point defense system with engines and a slipspace drive attached.
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 09:49 AM

To be honest the mako is a point defense system with engines and a slipspace drive attached.


Well, isnt that somewhat what a corvette is? Lol

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 09:54 AM

Wait, the Berlin does nto have a MAC? No sane UNSC Designer would mdoel the thing to have nothing to take out a covenant ship.
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 10:30 AM

The Berlin HAS a MAC. I don't know how you'd think it didn't.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 10:34 AM

The Berlin HAS a MAC. I don't know how you'd think it didn't.

The berlins always ignore my commands to attack enemy ships, and head straight to the planet. every time. drives me insane, even when i order them to attack, ive never seen them use them, only missiles.
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:35 AM

The berlins always ignore my commands to attack enemy ships, and head straight to the planet. every time. drives me insane, even when i order them to attack, ive never seen them use them, only missiles.


I think thats the behavior of a seige frigate, prioritizing planet bombardment over engagement of the enemy

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 03:42 PM

The berlins always ignore my commands to attack enemy ships, and head straight to the planet. every time. drives me insane, even when i order them to attack, ive never seen them use them, only missiles.


Is this an individual command or do you fleet your ships?

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 05:18 PM

I think thats the behavior of a seige frigate, prioritizing planet bombardment over engagement of the enemy

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 07:43 PM

Is this an individual command or do you fleet your ships?

individual and fleet command to attack certain targets, berlins ignore them, or rather they start to follow them and then decide that the planet needs bombed more than the enemy -.-
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:06 PM

I'll see what I can do.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:53 PM

I've never seen this happen. Maybe the ship's target is destroyed and it simply assigns itself it's next prime task. Take a guess what that might be.
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 09:26 PM

That's probably the case, Jrspartan.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 05:26 AM

I've never seen this happen. Maybe the ship's target is destroyed and it simply assigns itself it's next prime task. Take a guess what that might be.

I was going to post that last night but I decided to do it today... Slow mo ninja-d... yea that's probably what happened
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