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#1 Defender0

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:49 PM

So, now that one of our major threads for discussing the covenant is locked, Im making this thread to continue said discussion, as we did get a lot of golden ideas from that original thread.

Keep putting in your thoughts on the covenant here, no matter how strange the ideas might be. We can always use them to help get the covenant released.

#2 damn_tall_marine

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 04:13 PM

I do have a question about the covenant though, will they have many types of cruiser and capitals? Or will there just be a few like the ones we have seen in the FPS Halo?

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 04:21 PM

Currently, the covenant have the same number of capital ships as the UNSC, each with similar roles (colony, carrier, long range, support, battleship, Supercarrier/assault carrier)

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:27 PM

This is a general idea for both factions but I was wondering if attacks could shave away armor points with repairs bringing them back.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:31 PM

This is a general idea for both factions but I was wondering if attacks could shave away armor points with repairs bringing them back.


I know you can do this with abilities, but i dont know if regular attacks can do that. Another thing to check out and see if hardcoding stops us

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:35 PM

I know you can do this with abilities, but i dont know if regular attacks can do that. Another thing to check out and see if hardcoding stops us


I'm pretty sure there is actually vanilla research for that but I am not sure about the second part of my idea.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:36 PM

I'm pretty sure there is actually vanilla research for that but I am not sure about the second part of my idea.


Yeah, which is why we would have to check hardcoding for that. I dont know if its possible, but i like the idea.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:43 PM

Your saying that you want a weapon to cripple armor right? Maybe I'm just not processing everything in my head well these days.

This might be possible....
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:46 PM

Your saying that you want a weapon to cripple armor right? Maybe I'm just not processing everything in my head well these days.

This might be possible....


MACs, Torps, and projectors should all do it,
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 06:45 PM

Your saying that you want a weapon to cripple armor right? Maybe I'm just not processing everything in my head well these days.

This might be possible....

Ingame terms, he wants basic gun fire like MACs to have a passive to decrease the current armor of the target.
Like get hit and then -1.0 Armor debuff or something like that

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 07:37 PM

Ya I would see that more for the UNSC though because the covenant never really have armor they are mostly shield based.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:12 PM

buffs are inflictable via shots - it's an ability that would have to be active on the ship that's firing though...
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 05:37 PM

You can't have a passive buff that does this?

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:08 PM

Did the covenant even use frigates?

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:10 PM

yep, those covenant corvettes from reach were frigate class ships, and there are other examples too

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:15 PM

yep, those covenant corvettes from reach were frigate class ships, and there are other examples too


Wouldn't they just be classified as corvettes? Nonfictional navies make the distinction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvette
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frigate

Covenant frigates are mentioned in Ghosts of Onyx and Glasslands and the map Penance is located on a Covenant frigate.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:24 PM

ok, ive always considered the "covenant corvette" as a frigate because of its weaponry, but thats just me. But my point still stands, the covenant did use frigates.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:31 PM

Ok I remember now, the religious leader in glasslands used a frigate I just have no idea why it would look like :/

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 09:44 PM

ok, ive always considered the "covenant corvette" as a frigate because of its weaponry, but thats just me. But my point still stands, the covenant did use frigates.

Weaponry has nothing to do with ship classification. It was probably labeled a Corvette because it's unshielded and the majority of it's interior is used for planetary invasion.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:19 PM

buffs are inflictable via shots - it's an ability that would have to be active on the ship that's firing though...


Gonna jump in here and say I really don't like this. Dicking around with this stuff too much will break the gameplay. There are all sorts of holes in any simplified game. A ship with 1% of it's hull would not be able to recover, nor fight back, so on and so forth. If you over analyze a relatively simple game then you're going to find big faults with it. I don't think this kind of mechanic change would improve fun. Maybe when a more complex and better game comes out, like Star Citizen, we might be able to do more, but deviating from SoaSE mechanics too far will make it not fun, among other things.
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