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#41 Rovert10

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 05:24 PM

Certain Titans can be nigh-unsinkable in Vanilla but only is played right.

Titans are are just glorified ability casters in Vanilla. Hardly powerhouses people make them out to be.

 

Anyone who knows how to properly fight a Titan would just use tons of bombers and certain capital ship abilities to laugh at the thing.

Rushing for a titan at least in competitive play is a waste of resources if not properly secured to do it.



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Posted 10 December 2013 - 05:45 PM

Certain Titans can be nigh-unsinkable in Vanilla but only is played right.

Titans are are just glorified ability casters in Vanilla. Hardly powerhouses people make them out to be.

 

Anyone who knows how to properly fight a Titan would just use tons of bombers and certain capital ship abilities to laugh at the thing.

Rushing for a titan at least in competitive play is a waste of resources if not properly secured to do it.

Sure, titans can be countered easily by spamming capital ships and bombers only. But that doesn't mean it's a fun or sensible design choice. It's certainly true that building nothing but carrier cruisers and capitals is a pretty hard counter to titans. But in most mods and regular Sins, titans absolutely eat everything else for breakfast. Typically if you're throwing normal cruisers and frigates at them, the only thing you're accomplishing is leveling them up.

 

So yes, titans are easily countered by bombers. But I don't think it's fun that my strategy once a titan enters play has to be "Don't build 90% of the ships you have access to." Which makes me return to my original point - titans should be powerful. But they shouldn't be unstoppable and they should be very costly.

 

I always liked the way Sins of a Galactic Empire handled theirs. They were at the end of the research tree, which is what has been suggested, and things like the SSD were incredibly powerful, but it also required an exorbitant amount of resources and fleet supply. And despite its firepower, it could still be killed relatively quickly if it was unescorted.


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Posted 10 December 2013 - 06:42 PM

So its the RCS Class Armored Cruiser, 1000px-H4-RCSArmoredCruiser-SideFull.png

awesome choice though I think we've already seen what happens when this one tries its luck against the Infinity :D

Thinking on it though I kinda miss the old design, it looked the part rather than the option to make a supercarrier by clicking "Double Image Size" on an assault carrier.

And another thing, what the hell happened to the CCS Class in Halo 4, only saw the light cruiser and armored one?



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Posted 10 December 2013 - 06:46 PM

So its the RCS Class Armored Cruiser, 1000px-H4-RCSArmoredCruiser-SideFull.png

awesome choice though I think we've already seen what happens when this one tries its luck against the Infinity :D

Thinking on it though I kinda miss the old design, it looked the part rather than the option to make a supercarrier by clicking "Double Image Size" on an assault carrier.

And another thing, what the hell happened to the CCS Class in Halo 4, only saw the light cruiser and armored one?

Are you implying this as the covie titan? cause if so, i am sorry but that seem like a horrible idea, its weaker than a AC in both armor and weapons. However, it would make a excellent capital, I would like to see that in rebellion, but i am pretty sure that is not happening. and the CCS was simply not available because other sangheli factions and pirates got to them first.



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Posted 10 December 2013 - 06:47 PM

Are you implying this as the covie titan? cause if so, i am sorry but that seem like a horrible idea, its weaker than a AC in both armor and weapons. However, it would make a excellent capital, I would like to see that in rebellion, but i am pretty sure that is not happening. and the CCS was simply not available because other sangheli factions and pirates got to them first.

how does it sound like hes saying thats the titan?



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Posted 10 December 2013 - 06:49 PM

how does it sound like hes saying thats the titan?

Well it appeared out of no where under the thread "new titan ideas" and i saw no prior reference to anything covie on the thread so i just assumed thats what he meant by it.



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Posted 10 December 2013 - 07:16 PM

http://halo.wikia.co...armored_cruiser

Guess I should have included a quote-

 

Oh their is a decision.... I'll give you a hint it took a whole battle group and a very talented Admiral to take the thing out.

 

Other than the RCS their a still a few ideas for covies titans, the Cov Supercruiser, the resurrected Forerunner keyship from halo 2 and 3, the Ascendent Justice- sort of a downscaled supercruiser, the Battlestation Unyeilding Heirophant (Perhaps smaller and on it side, its shields can take a direct hit from an asteroid)



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 04:29 PM

I feel like anything else less than a ship the size of an Assault Carrier would simply be dwarfed by the infinity in size and weapons. Except the Dreadnaught of course..

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 04:30 PM

The dreadnought was bigger than both of them combined... or if your referencing halo wars, that thing was AC sized



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:31 PM

The dreadnought was bigger than both of them combined... or if your referencing halo wars, that thing was AC sized

both the keyship and the dreadnought in halo wars dwarf the assault carrier at over 10 KM long each



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:39 PM

both the keyship and the dreadnought in halo wars dwarf the assault carrier at over 10 KM long each

Not according to this chart

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And my personal thanks to google images and to the site that gave it to me

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:41 PM

*facepalm*

that's not the dreadnought


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:42 PM

Lol. That's the pocketknife guardian cruiser
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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:43 PM

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:46 PM

Lol. That's the pocketknife guardian cruiser

Ok first, sorry did not know that, they looked so much alike :P

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And second, im aware of that things gargantuan size and ability's, i was talking about the other one.



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:46 PM

Not according to this chart

 

And my personal thanks to google images and to the site that gave it to me

http://background-pi...722*scales.png/

that forerunner ship in that scale chart is a regular cruiser....

 

The actual dreadnought that those cruisers docked with are around 14 KM long.



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:47 PM

Ok first, sorry did not know that, they looked so much alike :P

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And second, im aware of that things gargantuan size and ability's, i was talking about the other one.

Still not the dreadnought though


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:48 PM

that forerunner ship in that scale chart is a regular cruiser....
 
The actual dreadnought that those cruisers docked with are around 14 KM long.

In other terminology, the CENTURION.
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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:50 PM

the CENTURION.

AKA, the rape machine



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:52 PM

AKA, the rape machine

Forerunner Bitch Maker


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