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[Lord Stark]

With the conclusion of the Kilo-Five trilogy with Mortal Dicata which was released today, time for; you guessed it, a discussion thread!

I bought it via google books at midnight and I can tell you guys what I know from my quick skim.

Spoiler

1. No Arbiter; Thel 'Vadam doesn't even make an appearance in this novel.

2. No Jul 'Mdama; yeah those of you hoping for scenes of Jul going from colony to colony gaining followers...NOPE. He's mentioned I think maybe once or twice.

3. We do get to visit the Kig-Yar homeworld.

4. We finally get a reason for Parangosky's vehement hatred of Halsey.

5. Osman's mom was a prostitute, and she was a bastard. Halsey actually...gave her a better life. trolololol.

[Bornstellaris]

Nobody spoil anything!

[D4RKST0RM99]

Not a spoiler but Halo Waypoint recently posted this 6min audio track from the begining of the book plus the prologue-

https://blogs.halowa...al-Dictata.aspx

[SPECTRE]

If all you do is complain about Karen travis, then why buy her books?

[Stephan-338]

To be fair, I love Karen Travis.. I can't wait to read it ^^

[SPECTRE]

To be fair, I love Karen Travis.. I can't wait to read it ^^

No its LordStarks criticisms of Karen Travis.

I like her, 

[D4RKST0RM99]

No its LordStarks criticisms of Karen Travis.

I like her, 

I recall she said in an interview about Glasslands and how in the preparation of writing it, she needs to have no prior knowledge of the subject matter, has to come at it new and fresh.

[Lord Stark]

If all you do is complain about Karen travis, then why buy her books?

Lol I didn't buy Thursday War, that piece of shit shall remain torrented.  Mortal Dicata as I suspected was better, albeit very narrow.  And as much as I dislike her downscaling of sci-fi empires, and her disregarding of previous lore (like calling a plasma torpedo a missile).  Her characters are generally pretty good, although she rubs in the fact that she likes taking beloved characters and making them hated.  I did like that the Halsey hate was finally explained though.  Made a lot more sense.

 

That being said though its still disappointing.

 

I recall she said in an interview about Glasslands and how in the preparation of writing it, she needs to have no prior knowledge of the subject matter, has to come at it new and fresh.

See this is the shit I'm talking about. That's an awful way of entering into a sci-fi universe especially of all things.

[SPECTRE]

Lol I didn't buy Thursday War, that piece of shit shall remain torrented.  Mortal Dicata as I suspected was better, albeit very narrow.  And as much as I dislike her downscaling of sci-fi empires, and her disregarding of previous lore (like calling a plasma torpedo a missile).  Her characters are generally pretty good, although she rubs in the fact that she likes taking beloved characters and making them hated.  I did like that the Halsey hate was finally explained though.  Made a lot more sense.

 

That being said though its still disappointing.

 

See this is the shit I'm talking about. That's an awful way of entering into a sci-fi universe especially of all things.

She does do the best character creation, at least you acknowledge that, i immediately connected with all the characters, except phylis.

[Lord Stark]

She does do the best character creation, at least you acknowledge that, i immediately connected with all the characters, except phylis.

She's great at creating her own characters.  She's terrible at writing previously established characters.  The only exception is Parangosky.

[Zero]

the Spartan IVs are a byproduct of her Mandalorian Jedi Bounty Hunters from her Star Wars novels. I've never liked Karen Traviss, I only read the books because it had Halo in the title, though to be fair these new Halo books are way more distant from what Nylund did. I wish he would come back to the universe.

[David0425]

I miss nylund everything was more shoot first ask later, not...

 

"Would throwing a MAC at the planet hurt the politician's efforts at making peace with what tried to exterminate us for 30+ years?"

[MrChipps]

I love the way Travis writes, it fits perfectly with the new post-war era. Nylund made spartan IIs seem like utter robots who could only be traumatized by exterior events involving other robots and that's fine for a end-of-the-world setting where the story needs perfect heroes blasting monsters.

 

In Mortal Dictata Naomi almost snapped mentally when she finally faced her own past and what had been done to her; that is perfect for a gritty story about a small group of spec-ops and the future queen of ONI trying to forge a path for humanity in a new world filled with only grey spectrums of good and bad.

[Fleet Admiral agigabyte]

I love the way Travis writes, it fits perfectly with the new post-war era. Nylund made spartan IIs seem like utter robots who could only be traumatized by exterior events involving other robots and that's fine for a end-of-the-world setting where the story needs perfect heroes blasting monsters.
 
In Mortal Dictata Naomi almost snapped mentally when she finally faced her own past and what had been done to her; that is perfect for a gritty story about a small group of spec-ops and the future queen of ONI trying to forge a path for humanity in a new world filled with only grey spectrums of good and bad.

I agree, I never understood the Karen Travis's hate.

[m468]

I miss nylund everything was more shoot first ask later, not...

 

"Would throwing a MAC at the planet hurt the politician's efforts at making peace with what tried to exterminate us for 30+ years?"

Welcome to a tenuous peace after a war that has devastated Humanity and a civil war that broke the Covenant's back. You have to take into consideration stuff like that, nothing is black and white anymore. 

[Zero]

I agree, I never understood the Karen Travis's hate.

 

 

Mandalorian Jedi Bounty Hunters from her Star Wars novels

[Stephan-338]

I just read it and I hope that there will be more novels with BB... He's kind of awesome

[SPECTRE]

the Spartan IVs are a byproduct of her Mandalorian Jedi Bounty Hunters from her Star Wars novels. I've never liked Karen Traviss, I only read the books because it had Halo in the title, though to be fair these new Halo books are way more distant from what Nylund did. I wish he would come back to the universe.

She never came up with the SIV idea, that was 343 telling her to put them in.

[Zero]

She never came up with the SIV idea, that was 343 telling her to put them in.

I'm aware, I was trying to make a joke. There are no SIV's in her novels.

[SPECTRE]

I'm aware, I was trying to make a joke. There are no SIV's in her novels.

Oh, i didn't find it very funny, come to think of it, i don't get it.

 

Spoiler

The prologue i found very frustrating, terrorists are terrorists, yet they are still human.

1st chapter i actually sympathized with him.

2nd chapter helps to get across the frustration than Naomi has.