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[Lord Stark]

People who have been reading my threads recently will be pleased to know this isn't a plot device thread, but in a way is a Super-Carrier thread.  Does anyone remember back when Halo Wars was released and the Super-Destroyer was thought to be a Super-Carrier?  

 

 

Well here's to reminding you, or introducing the concept to those who never saw it.  I think that using the Super-Destroyer is a great plan as a Titan given its awesome performance at Harvest.  But it'd be awesome to have an awe inspiring massive vessel at the center of our fleets that can challenge Infinity (lose sure but at least be able to not get completely slaughtered, perhaps in raw weaponry its superior, but Infinity with her escorts and superior hull will always win out).

 

I know scaling up something is non-canon, but the way I view it is that scaling down Mantle's Approach so it can fit the Titan role is similar to scaling up the Super-Destroyer so it can fit the Titan role.  I just feel (and perhaps I am the only one) that having a vessel not much longer than the CCS at the center of my armada will be a bit less...epic than pwning heretics with a 5.7 km long warship escorted by several CASes.  

 

As always just a suggestion, keep up the great work guys.

[Faced]

You never heard then, it is already planned for the Covie Titan

[D4RKST0RM99]

People who have been reading my threads recently will be pleased to know this isn't a plot device thread, but in a way is a Super-Carrier thread.  Does anyone remember back when Halo Wars was released and the Super-Destroyer was thought to be a Super-Carrier?  

 

Spoiler

 

 

Well here's to reminding you, or introducing the concept to those who never saw it.  I think that using the Super-Destroyer is a great plan as a Titan given its awesome performance at Harvest.  But it'd be awesome to have an awe inspiring massive vessel at the center of our fleets that can challenge Infinity (lose sure but at least be able to not get completely slaughtered, perhaps in raw weaponry its superior, but Infinity with her escorts and superior hull will always win out).

 

I know scaling up something is non-canon, but the way I view it is that scaling down Mantle's Approach so it can fit the Titan role is similar to scaling up the Super-Destroyer so it can fit the Titan role.  I just feel (and perhaps I am the only one) that having a vessel not much longer than the CCS at the center of my armada will be a bit less...epic than pwning heretics with a 5.7 km long warship escorted by several CASes.  

 

As always just a suggestion, keep up the great work guys.

lmao, love that years later i find bits of my scale chart reused for other things.

I do like the idea of the Covy Battlecruiser though, re-enact coles victory at Harvest.

 

Also the ship in Halo Wars is supposedly a heavy destroyer, the super destroyer is the nickname of the covenant Battlecruiser from Halo Wars genesis.

[Lord Stark]

You never heard then, it is already planned for the Covie Titan

No I know its going to be the Covie Titan.  I am saying that it should be upscaled to 5.7kms rather than the current planned size of 2km.

 

 

lmao, love that years later i find bits of my scale chart reused for other things. 

I do like the idea of the Covy Battlecruiser though, re-enact coles victory at Harvest.

 

Also the ship in Halo Wars is supposedly a heavy destroyer, the super destroyer is the nickname of the covenant Battlecruiser from Halo Wars genesis.

Yeah that's the ship I meant.

Also you were the one to make that?  Awesome!

[Zero]

Because size = performance on the battlefield.

[I Am Sancho]

I think there might be phallic study going on here. 

[D4RKST0RM99]

 

No I know its going to be the Covie Titan.  I am saying that it should be upscaled to 5.7kms rather than the current planned size of 2km.

 

 

Yeah that's the ship I meant.

Also you were the one to make that?  Awesome!

 

Lol, I didn't come up with the original design but this is my attempt to recreate if for the scale chart will as much detail as I can manage-

Spoiler

Woah, didnt realise till now that this is not mine re-used but I know the one in my chart has been used elsewhere, I've even seen some others from the chart turn up on the spanish Halopedia site, dont know if thats a complement.

[Emberblaque]

Because size = performance on the battlefield.

It's popular sci-fi, so yeah.

 

But seriously, I think it's a good visual cue in the context of video games.

[Lord Stark]

Because size = performance on the battlefield.

Nope but imagine the UNSC angle of things, standing on the bridge of Infinity.

 

"Sir, they're sending in their TItan!"

Lasky- Oh **** power to shields...

*2km long warship slipspaces in

Infinity bridge crew: 

[Commander Jbug]

Size always matters: http://daily-steampu..._by_VonBrrr.jpg

[Fleet Admiral agigabyte]

Nope but imagine the UNSC angle of things, standing on the bridge of Infinity.

"Sir, they're sending in their TItan!"
Lasky- Oh **** power to shields...
*2km long warship slipspaces in
Infinity bridge crew:
 

I lol'd at that so much.

Edited by Sci Fi Dude777, 23 January 2014 - 03:37 PM.
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[m468]

Nope but imagine the UNSC angle of things, standing on the bridge of Infinity.
 
"Sir, they're sending in their TItan!"
Lasky- Oh **** power to shields...
*2km long warship slipspaces in
Infinity bridge crew: 

HOT DAMN!

[theblitz6794]

I'm very much for the canon decision. The CAS is the Infinities closest equal (in terms of role). The SD/BB (its supposed to be a battleship) is a dedicated combat ship. Its not supposed to lead a fleet. 

[Lord Stark]

I'm very much for the canon decision. The CAS is the Infinities closest equal (in terms of role). The SD/BB (its supposed to be a battleship) is a dedicated combat ship. Its not supposed to lead a fleet. 

 

I mean...sort of.  The CAS has technically never been shown to be a refuel and command post for other warships...although based on its larger cousin it probably has the capability.  

 

The point isn't to make the Super-Destroyer into a carrier mate, its simply to make the Super-Destroyer more...I don't know...Titanesq.  

[Faced]

Titan=Most Badass Unit in that faction, which the Super Destroyer is. Because it is a total beast. i mean look how much ships it took to take it down in Halo Wars Genesis. A lot

[theblitz6794]

You're missing the entire point of the Infinity and the SD. The SD, as has been explained by the devs, is NOT a true titan. The entire point is that the Infinity is a class of her own as the UNSC finally overtakes the Covenant. Having a true titan for the covs wouldn't fit the entire design for the mod. It's also not canon. For an endgame ship, they're not making things up. Something stupid frigate that no one cares about they can get creative. Not for this. They've explained that before regarding the plot device and fanon titans. I suggest you read the forums more. 

[Lord Stark]

You're missing the entire point of the Infinity and the SD. The SD, as has been explained by the devs, is NOT a true titan. The entire point is that the Infinity is a class of her own as the UNSC finally overtakes the Covenant. Having a true titan for the covs wouldn't fit the entire design for the mod. It's also not canon. For an endgame ship, they're not making things up. Something stupid frigate that no one cares about they can get creative. Not for this. They've explained that before regarding the plot device and fanon titans. I suggest you read the forums more. 

First, I am well aware of that.  If you looked at my post you'd see it'd is indeed based off of the original estimate for the size of the SD.  Visual evidence supports this, its just that the visual encyclopedia has stated otherwise.  That being said the encyclopedia has also been cited as stating the battleship is 200 meters wrong (lol shitty editors).  

 

Second, it wouldn't be a true titan because would only be 100m larger than the CAS, which is, ding ding ding a Covenant Capital.  I am literally suggesting a change in scale.  That's it.  Also for endgame ships...they are making things up, otherwise Mantle's Approach would be larger than the gravity well.  My point is that if one Titan can be rescaled to fit the Titan size range why can't another?

 

I suggest you read my posts more thoroughly/ read my posts throughout the forums.

[Faced]

You're missing the entire point of the Infinity and the SD. The SD, as has been explained by the devs, is NOT a true titan. The entire point is that the Infinity is a class of her own as the UNSC finally overtakes the Covenant. Having a true titan for the covs wouldn't fit the entire design for the mod. It's also not canon. For an endgame ship, they're not making things up. Something stupid frigate that no one cares about they can get creative. Not for this. They've explained that before regarding the plot device and fanon titans. I suggest you read the forums more. 

 the Covie SD, isn't a full titan I know, its more of a Semi-titan, but titan none-the-less. And idk if you're talking about the SD not being Canon, but it is. and if you read the book HW:Genesis you'd know it's more powerful than the CAS. having the plot device is a big no no therefore the only possible ship that can fulfil the Covie Titan role, is the SD. and If the Covies didnt have a Titan, a lot of balancing would need to be done. making some sort of ship that can rival the Infinity, which i dont think the CAS can, because once its shields are down, its nothing but cannon fodder.

[theblitz6794]

No no, I misworded that. I meant that Lord Stark's SD isn't canon. 

[theblitz6794]

First, I am well aware of that.  If you looked at my post you'd see it'd is indeed based off of the original estimate for the size of the SD.  Visual evidence supports this, its just that the visual encyclopedia has stated otherwise.  That being said the encyclopedia has also been cited as stating the battleship is 200 meters wrong (lol shitty editors).  

 

Second, it wouldn't be a true titan because would only be 100m larger than the CAS, which is, ding ding ding a Covenant Capital.  I am literally suggesting a change in scale.  That's it.  Also for endgame ships...they are making things up, otherwise Mantle's Approach would be larger than the gravity well.  My point is that if one Titan can be rescaled to fit the Titan size range why can't another?

 

I suggest you read my posts more thoroughly/ read my posts throughout the forums.

If you read the forums, you'd realize Forerunner ships and MA are being scaled down for gameplay and practicality reasons. It's impossible to have them in the mod at their true size. The ships are just too big. They don't have to break canon for the SD, so they won't. 

 

The CAS is titan length. It just isn't a titan. The Infinity is also titan length and is a titan. Length means something but not everything.

 

http://halo.wikia.co...hip#cite_note-0

 

The battleship is 2,000m long. What else is there to say?