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[Cole Protocol]

We did take it somewhere else. 

Also is the game balance tested with or without the DLCs? (more specifically the one that changed planet types with an upgrade, the one with social or economic society)

Ok, SPECTRE, that is new thread material, this is a Autumn thread, lets stay within UNSC ships at least.

[sloosecannon]

We did take it somewhere else.
Also is the game balance tested with or without the DLCs? (more specifically the one that changed planet types with an upgrade, the one with social or economic society)

Without. At least from my perspective...

[Lord Stark]

If you're going to do the CAS/ SMAC argument take it somewhere else. Seriously.

And Stark, as Sloose said. That's the idea. The UNSC are supposed to outmatch the Covenant late game with quickly regenerating fleets and a powerhouse economy. They're turtle gameplay to begin and will lose more easily but are a sleeping giant. That's why most of the UNSC's good tech is late-game rather than the Covenant's early/mid domain. That's always been the way they were supposed to play. Changes will come but that's still the basic premise of the faction. Sorry if you were aware of that but your post seemed to imply you weren't.

Yeah I read the balancing article.  But my point is the UNSC is already going to beat the Covenant late game...they'll outright steamroll them with Infinity and God help the Covie's shields.  And the Super-Destroyer will be really inferior to Infinity right?

[Cole Protocol]

One thread has turned into 3 different conversations. 

 

Huh.

[sloosecannon]

Yeah I read the balancing article. But my point is the UNSC is already going to beat the Covenant late game...they'll outright steamroll them with Infinity and God help the Covie's shields. And the Super-Destroyer will be really inferior to Infinity right?

Yeah basically the balance will change. I'll leave it to someone from balancing to explain completely but it'll be different. Trust me though - we'll keep it balanced

EDIT: Yes SciFi, yes it has.
@SPECTRE: He meant he DLC question

[SPECTRE]

Ok, SPECTRE, that is new thread material, this is a Autumn thread, lets stay within UNSC ships at least.

 

 

One thread has turned into 3 different conversations. 

 

Huh.

Thats probably why you're responding to something that i haven't even said. WTF?

[m468]

OK stay on topic here or what heppened to the original thread will happen again.

[Lord Stark]

Yeah basically the balance will change. I'll leave it to someone from balancing to explain completely but it'll be different. Trust me though - we'll keep it balanced

EDIT: Yes SciFi, yes it has.
@SPECTRE: He meant he DLC question

Cool, I know you guys know your stuff with balancing.   I'm more just curious about how.  Anyway back on topic. 

Autumn-class with shields? 

[Cole Protocol]

Autumn-class with shields? 

Again, not balancing here (so not speaking officially), but we will more than likely make there strength in accordance. Shields on UNSC ships will more than likely be weak (with the exception of Infinity) and you will still have to relly more on hull and armor than shields and Mitigation. 

[Lord Stark]

The Autumn class is OP if you find the Mother of Intervention.  From a balancing the Autumn perspective is there any talk of giving the Covies an ability similar to the Autumn except disabling/ destroying a ship ala boarding craft?

[SPECTRE]

I was thinking about cov boarding craft the other day. Well volunteered stark. Go create a thread.

[sloosecannon]

Again, not balancing here (so not speaking officially), but we will more than likely make there strength in accordance. Shields on UNSC ships will more than likely be weak (with the exception of Infinity) and you will still have to relly more on hull and armor than shields and Mitigation.

It actually depends on the information that comes out about the Autumn. Currently there's no indication that they have shields - if a canon source says they do they'll probably have effective shields even without the research

[SPECTRE]

Well if a lowly frigate has shields why shouldn't a cruiser?

And if you've had 5 years to build/retrofit existing cruisers to a good standard you would put shields on them, wouldn't you?

[sloosecannon]

Well if a lowly frigate has shields why shouldn't a cruiser?
And if you've had 5 years to build/retrofit existing cruisers to a good standard you would put shields on them, wouldn't you?

It does make sense, but we don't know. I'd think they would too but canon sources don't mention it anywhere...

[SPECTRE]

Well you assumed that the halcyon carried a Hyperion.

[Lord Stark]

Canon sources don't even mention the Strident having shields.  Its quite possible that only Infinity's escorts have them because only Infinity has Huragok aboard.

[SPECTRE]

I suppose. But who'd to say that said strident was attached to infinity?

I sense we will make false assumptions all night (or day)

[Lord Stark]

The only source we have for Stridents having shields is that we saw Infinity's sub ships with energy shields in a SpOps cutscene.  

[RalphRoberts]

Wow, it happened again. Every time I have to go these thread derails pounce?

 

Anyways, I saw that someone said Autumn was working as intended, and UNSC was SUPPOSED to ROFLSTOMP the cov at the end-game if they played the early-mid game right (Turtle/eco spam, which I usually manage to pull off).

 

That pretty much answers my question, and as far as I am concerned the thread has served its purpose. Thanks all who managed to say on topic!

[SPECTRE]

My roflstomp goes soisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoi.........