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#1 David0425

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 10:24 PM

I had an idea for the covenant for the great schism research split:

In the books, more specifically, the fall of reach, why not have the manta ray looking crs as the brutes, and the halo 4 crs for elites since elites are depicted as having used the halo 4 based model much more.

Obviously having 2 different models for one ship would be strange, so to fit the game have the brute version be "heavily" shielded and armed and call it "CRS class- heavy frigate,and the elite version as fast, maneuverable, and have a decent chance to dodge, and called "CRS class- light assault frigate
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Posted 04 April 2014 - 11:01 PM

I had an idea for the covenant for the great schism research split:

In the books, more specifically, the fall of reach, why not have the manta ray looking crs as the brutes, and the halo 4 crs for elites since elites are depicted as having used the halo 4 based model much more.

Obviously having 2 different models for one ship would be strange, so to fit the game have the brute version be "heavily" shielded and armed and call it "CRS class- heavy frigate,and the elite version as fast, maneuverable, and have a decent chance to dodge, and called "CRS class- light assault frigate

The manta ray design sort of is not canon, the established shrunken CCS is the only CRS design at least as far as the lore is concerned.


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 05:02 AM

The manta ray design sort of is not canon, the established shrunken CCS is the only CRS design at least as far as the lore is concerned.


It was canon till halo 4.
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Posted 05 April 2014 - 05:11 AM

I suggested this some time ago.

You know in STA, when you get the excelsior, then when you research the lakota refit tech? It changes the model, we could do the same.

The bulges on the side could become manta wings.


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 05:41 AM

It is not going to happen we are using the Canon CRS the decision is final as it was when SPECTRE brought it up.


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 05:46 AM

I'm really not fussed, its just they look the same, and if you were to implement the RCS, then you would have 3 ships that look exactly the same.


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 05:57 AM

we aren't planing on the adding the RCS just don't have role for it atm. 


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 06:01 AM

we aren't planing on the adding the RCS just don't have role for it atm. 

Thank god, I haven't used half of the covenant ships anyway.


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 07:21 AM

I'm really not fussed, its just they look the same, and if you were to implement the RCS, then you would have 3 ships that look exactly the same.

And believe me, 2 ships that look exactly the same are ENOUGH...


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 07:40 AM

Must be easy to run a Covenant shipyard-

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 09:02 AM

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 11:07 AM

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 07:04 PM

I personally would rather see a different model for the CRS.


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 07:11 PM

I personally would rather see a different model for the CRS.

Same.


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 07:28 PM

I personally would rather see a different model for the CRS.


Or just replace it alltogether. I think having the SDV replace it would be an okay choice (provided it was buffed and given it's heavy plasma weaponry) I don't think the SDV should/can fire an energy projector from orbit...

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 07:41 PM

Well the CRS has been in canon since The Fall of Reach so replacing it would be silly. Plus, both ships already have their own roles.


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 10:25 PM

In fairness if the canon CRS could get a better original redesign then the same would apply to the unspeakable one with a smaller better design, it shouldn't so it wont (yes that taboo subject has been done to death) If we start dropping canon designs for our own better ones then this game/mod will start looking less like a halo game. It's good that their is a broad range of canon ships so new comers have the thrill of "Hey its that ship from I(insert halo game here) love that ship"

Is that just me though?



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Posted 06 April 2014 - 12:43 AM

In fairness if the canon CRS could get a better original redesign then the same would apply to the unspeakable one with a smaller better design, it shouldn't so it wont (yes that taboo subject has been done to death) If we start dropping canon designs for our own better ones then this game/mod will start looking less like a halo game. It's good that their is a broad range of canon ships so new comers have the thrill of "Hey its that ship from I(insert halo game here) love that ship"
Is that just me though?


Well I mean the Athens, Valiant, Orion, and Supercarriers aren't exactly canon designs... Same for the Prowler, actually. Same with the CAR and DDS for the Covenant. I saw a really cool redesign of <REDACTED> somewhere, it was actually really good looking and I loved it as opposed to the "canon" version. I dunno, I just think the miniaturization of the CSS basically the same as the plot device class world destroyer's design, lazy and uncreative and an insult to the fans. I don't know why we're letting that slip. What really irks me though, is that there's no real reason to keep building the CARs, CRSs, or even CPVs after you have CCSs up and running. The UNSC's at least each have a purpose and significant cost difference, there isn't much for these though. I think they need reworking, personally.

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 06:59 AM

That is the entire strategy for cov, why did you think the research treat is set up that way?
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Posted 06 April 2014 - 08:27 AM

Crisiss the Athens and Valiant are the in fact canon designs. They come out of the graphical novels. The Athens (while not the canon name because there is none for the class) come from the grafical novel version of Halo: The fall of Reach. The Valiant (the canon name of the class) comes from the graphical version of the Impossible life and death of Preston J. Cole.
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