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#21 TheOtherXtremeRoflcopter

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 03:49 PM

Just out of curiosity is that a yes or no for making a Campaign?
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:16 PM

Wonder if we can replace the tutorials... now that's a thought.


I brought that up long ago and was essentially told that if it was possible it would've happened by now. I don't certainly know if it's possible or impossible.

I ment the artifact.


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Just out of curiosity is that a yes or no for making a Campaign?


I would say it warrants further discussion.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:51 PM

You could design these "mission maps" to start out with the "Flagship" victory condition on in Rebellion. That would allow for the Valiant & Super Destroyer concept to start. And design a map with the "Relic Planet" (or whatever it is) victory condition.
But I kinda felt that the different maps already achieved this with the fall of reach and state of war and such.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:54 PM

You could design these "mission maps" to start out with the "Flagship" victory condition on in Rebellion. That would allow for the Valiant & Super Destroyer concept to start. And design a map with the "Relic Planet" (or whatever it is) victory condition.
But I kinda felt that the different maps already achieved this with the fall of reach and state of war and such.


problem with those maps was the 100+ stars they had...
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:55 PM

Fall of Reach didn't. State of war is a clusterfuck of confusion though, I agree.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 05:26 PM

Fall of Reach didn't. State of war is a clusterfuck of confusion though, I agree.


I hear this a lot. Is it because there are so many stars, or because they're too close together? I've made maps where the distances between planets and stars are closer to realistic scale.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 05:28 PM

The tutorial maps are included as part of the core .exe file so you'd have to reverse engineer it to modify them. Not an option, unfortunately.

As for custom maps, Ironclad didn't give us much to work with. Though custom starting fleets and custom planets are certainly possible, they unfortunately didn't include an option to lock a player's spawning location. That means that even in a 1vs1 map that you won't be in the intended starting planet 50% of the time.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 05:30 PM

Fall of Reach didn't. State of war is a clusterfuck of confusion though, I agree.


I say for state of the war make some maps based of sections of it that way you can get a similar experience just that you are the admiral in charge of that sector... And in my opinion State of the war ain't all that confusing... It just takes for ever...
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 05:34 PM

I feel like there are too many stars and too few planets attached to each. It's not confusing once you get things going, but takes a lot to get used to.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:07 PM

It would be interesting to have a campaign that culminates in the battle of reach. Since it was the largest engagement of the war. i dont know if that would fit within your timeline though

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:32 PM

The tutorial maps are included as part of the core .exe file so you'd have to reverse engineer it to modify them. Not an option, unfortunately.

As for custom maps, Ironclad didn't give us much to work with. Though custom starting fleets and custom planets are certainly possible, they unfortunately didn't include an option to lock a player's spawning location. That means that even in a 1vs1 map that you won't be in the intended starting planet 50% of the time.


Not so sure about that.
SOA has a set starting location... I thought some SOGE maps did too
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:55 PM

The tutorial maps are included as part of the core .exe file so you'd have to reverse engineer it to modify them. Not an option, unfortunately.

As for custom maps, Ironclad didn't give us much to work with. Though custom starting fleets and custom planets are certainly possible, they unfortunately didn't include an option to lock a player's spawning location. That means that even in a 1vs1 map that you won't be in the intended starting planet 50% of the time.


Could the levels be made so that way you are not exactly meant to start at that particular planet but rather in the general area and overall are assigned to defend it?
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:03 PM

Could the levels be made so that way you are not exactly meant to start at that particular planet but rather in the general area and overall are assigned to defend it?


There have to be at least two homeworlds, one for you one for your opponent. There will always be some probability that you'll spawn at the opponent's intended homeworld, even as the number of homeworlds becomes large for either player.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:25 PM

There have to be at least two homeworlds, one for you one for your opponent. There will always be some probability that you'll spawn at the opponent's intended homeworld, even as the number of homeworlds becomes large for either player.


There has to be something that can be done. anything
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:38 PM

There has to be something that can be done. anything


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:00 PM

Spawns can be set - look at SOGE or SOA's Fortune Favors the Bold. How to do it? No idea. But it can be done
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:42 PM

Regardless though, it could be something that is fixed by the modding team namely by Norman who I believe knows how to make the custom maps and shit.


Yeah, that's me. Making a makeshift campaign is definitely something to look into...eventually.

The tutorial maps are included as part of the core .exe file so you'd have to reverse engineer it to modify them. Not an option, unfortunately.

As for custom maps, Ironclad didn't give us much to work with. Though custom starting fleets and custom planets are certainly possible, they unfortunately didn't include an option to lock a player's spawning location. That means that even in a 1vs1 map that you won't be in the intended starting planet 50% of the time.


Screw it, lets just make our own game.
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:57 PM

Yeah, that's me. Making a makeshift campaign is definitely something to look into...eventually.



Screw it, lets just make our own game.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 07:11 AM

Spawns can be set - look at SOGE or SOA's Fortune Favors the Bold. How to do it? No idea. But it can be done


If that is so then you can set the spawns to start you with a minor fleet at an unclaimed world and set it up as a base.
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 08:21 AM

Okay, did some more research and found out some things:
1) Since I last checked the functionality some 3 or 4 years ago, they've updated Galaxy Forge and allowed for team specific spawning (follows the numbering system)
2) We can actually update existing maps to turn off randomized spawning now.

This kind of opens the door for us a bit, actually.

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