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#21 Stephan-338

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:26 AM

Would you mind showing them anyway? I just want to have a rough idea of what to expect

 

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:29 AM

When i said sketches i mean some parts.

Barrel of the H4 railgun, sloping armour, a whole section for missile salvos.

Not much to show.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:31 AM

I might give it a go to try and sketch it..


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:32 AM

I wanted it to look like the destroyer but with a (anchor looking) station on the back purely for power.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:34 AM

Yeah, I was also thinking about a ship looking station, heavily armoured, railguns on some positions, archer missiles (or those new infinity missiles) some flaks


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:37 AM

I wanted s front end like this:

640px-Asymmetric_Recoilless_Carbine-920.

But i was thinking it would look better on the splaser ship.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:38 AM

I'd be surprised if it doesn't incorporate the Onegar Mac as a rapid fire weapon. I'm thinking something with 800 damage and a 7.5 second reload time with maybe two or three per arc. I'd also want it bristling in anti strike-craft weapons as well as Heavy Helix weapons and Archer Missiles.

That would be the most spectacular thing to watch. 



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:39 AM

Yeah, those are what I meant, the onegars

Not give too much anti strike-craft because it'd be OP then


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:39 AM

It's not even official that it will be in mod, its being tossed around in the devs heads ATM, just like the splaser ship.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:40 AM

On second thought I like where you guys went with your idea there, maybe having it as a SMAC that also happens to be bristling in anti strike-craft weapons with great durability would be awesome. 



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:41 AM

Yeah, those are what I meant, the onegars

Not give too much anti strike-craft because it'd be OP then

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Yeah that's true, but if it has none at all bombers would be way too strong against it. As it stands bombers can handle a starbase pretty dang quickly 



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:42 AM

Perhaps something that could take out a ship from the other side of the grav well or something.

We should create a new thread for this.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:42 AM

It'd balance it out, build the star base but also hanger defences to defend it against strike craft, like you have to do with SMACs

 

And that'd be wise


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 11:35 PM

When the Covenant glass a planet they could probably mine it for Crystalline resources.



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 12:29 AM

When the Covenant glass a planet they could probably mine it for Crystalline resources.

Well that wouldn't make sense since the glassing of a planet isn't removing resources, it's essentially just destroying everything on the planet's surface. 


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 07:37 AM

Wasn't it established in the novels somewhere that the Covenant didn't actually "glass" the whole planet just the human populated areas but the ONI higher ups were using the term as a propaganda tool?


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 07:41 AM

 the one where the established it was that it would take something like 3 months to glass earth if the covenant had the same size fleet as the UNSC.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 08:11 AM

It would certainly be possible though it would be a lengthy procedure. The real question is what benefit would glassing give the Covenant?

A resource bonus similar to strip to the core?  Glassing was used to uncover artifacts a lot of times.  Also destroying an enemy chokehold planet and rendering it unusable would be strategically viable.  SOTPs is chokehold based, reducing the number of logistic slots and civilian slots via glassing would be amazing.  I know I've used Strip to the Core in vanilla sins to reduce the dead asteroids into asteroid field so that the enemy can never use that world for even tactical purposes.



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 08:25 AM

 the one where the established it was that it would take something like 3 months to glass earth if the covenant had the same size fleet as the UNSC.

Blatantly contradicted by this.

http://www.halopedia..._of_Reach_1.jpg

Halsey's theory is an in-universe theory, not fact.  The Covenant do burn the surface of a world to the point where it cannot support life anymore.  What has been changed is that they don't burn every square centimeter of the planet.  Here are the changes.

 

"When the Covenant destroys a planet, they typically move their large warships closer and blanket the world with a series of crisscrossing orbits to ensure that every square millimetre of the surface is covered with plasma bombardments."

is changed into:

"When the Covenant destroys a planet, they typically move their large warships closer and blanket the world with a series of crisscrossing orbits to ensure that nothing could ever survive on its surface."

 

 

 "Before I jumped to Slipspace, I witnessed the poles destroyed, and approximately two thirds of the planet's surface was on fire."

 

is changed into:

 

"Before I jumped to Slipspace, I witnessed the poles destroyed, and a significant portion of the planet's surface was on fire."

 

And lastly

 

"Something didn't fit. Covenant plasma bombardment had always proceeded in an orderly crisscrossing pattern across a planet until every square centimeter of the surface was glass and cinder."

is changed to:

 

"Something didn't fit. Covenant plasma bombardment had always proceeded in an orderly crisscrossing pattern across a planet until everything on its surface was glass and cinder."

 

 

So to reiterate the Covenant still glass worlds, its just not to such an extreme degree that they destroy every square centimeter.  



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 08:29 AM

That would actually make for an interesting strategic option, but it seems borderline game-breaking to me.  Viable but perhaps difficult to balance out.


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