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[SPECTRE]

To be more specific, the San Shyuum used hit and run attacks with the Dreadnought while the Elites were fighting with their own ships (most likely enhanced by Forerunner tech). That is why i pointed out the Covenant ships may have been theirs to start with.

The sanghelli refused to use forerunner technology to be reversed engineered, that was the cause of the war.

[SternuS]

The sanghelli refused to use forerunner technology to be reversed engineered, that was the cause of the war.

This.

Their ships were rudimental against the highly-advanced San 'Shyuum ships.

[Adrien Victus]

This.

Their ships were rudimental against the highly-advanced San 'Shyuum ships.

Yes but as the war progressed they implemented forerunner technology to give them the advantage and soon lost the reason why they were fighting. Thus the covenant began.

[SternuS]

Yes but as the war progressed they implemented forerunner technology to give them the advantage and soon lost the reason why they were fighting. Thus the covenant began.

They didn't lost the reason why they were fighting. By the end of the war both sides were almost annihilated and when the Sangheili, as you said, implemented Forerunner tech into their ships, the conflict came to a stalemate and they signed a treaty.

[Mendicant Bias]

The sanghelli refused to use forerunner technology to be reversed engineered, that was the cause of the war.

They started researching and applying Forerunner tech not long after the war started. Thats how the two became evenly matched otherwise the San Shyuum would have won.

[psdt]

I thought all the San Shyuum died after halo 2? Correct me if im wrong but I thought that the vast majority of the San Shyuum lived on high charity, and the flood kinda ate that place.

[Unikraken]

I thought all the San Shyuum died after halo 2? Correct me if im wrong but I thought that the vast majority of the San Shyuum lived on high charity, and the flood kinda ate that place.

No, many fled High Charity or were on other ships. Thousands or tens of thousands, if I remember correctly. They've run off to hide. We could very well see them again if they find respite.

[Slayeh215]

Most of the San Shyuum who were a part of the Covenant were killed either on High Charity or in skirmishes during the Schism. What remained have either gone into hiding or been killed. The Prophets were the descendants of  San Shyuum who stole the Forerunner Dreadnought from their Homeworld after a short battle sparked by a difference in doctrine with the rest of their species. They believed in examining and using Forerunner relics to reverse engineer them in order to create new technologies. Opposing them was the majority of their species who believed in simply revering and worshiping Forerunner ruins.

TL,DR Most if not all Covenant San Shyuum are dead but the species is still around and thriving back on their Homeworld.

[Lord Stark]

There are less than a thousand San'Shyuum left in the galaxy with High Charity being infested.  They have come back from similar numbers when the Dreadnought first fled Janjur Qom.  Additionally it is implied that its quite possible Janjur Qom was not destroyed by a stellar event, and that the San'Shyuum lied about the event due to distrust of the Sangheili.  

 

As for the Covenant Fleet?  They are likely the same design of the Sangheili vessels from the first war considering the San'Shyuum's complete demilitarization was likely a condition of the Writ of Union, similar to the disbanding of the Sangheili Ascetics 

[Mendicant Bias]

Majority of the thousand or so San Shyuum of High Charity fled,yes. From the start it has been implied that they lied about the destruction of JaJur Qom. Which means there could be plenty of them left. Even in Cryptum Greg Bear went out of his way to avoid talking about the third planet in the system if it wasn't a second moon to Qom.

[Crisiss]

Majority of the thousand or so San Shyuum of High Charity fled,yes. From the start it has been implied that they lied about the destruction of JaJur Qom. Which means there could be plenty of them left. Even in Cryptum Greg Bear went out of his way to avoid talking about the third planet in the system if it wasn't a second moon to Qom.

I'm not sure what you're implying here but without further explanation I'll just make a guess

If there was a stellar collapse everything in the system would be rendered uninhabitable. I think it's likely that they could have expanded to the point to colonize another planet though, seeing how abundant terrestrial planets are in Halo.

[CanadaMan7]

Is that really the new CAR? This happens like all the time. As soon as you have a good fanon design ironed out, they just throw something new in your face

[CQBEXPT]

Is that really the new CAR? This happens like all the time. As soon as you have a good fanon design ironed out, they just throw something new in your face

I think it should be considering it is similar to the current model .

[Crisiss]

Is that really the new CAR? This happens like all the time. As soon as you have a good fanon design ironed out, they just throw something new in your face

>good fanon design

 

LOL

 

I hate the current CAR. It's so fucking ugly.

 

No, I don't think it's an actual canon model. I would like the current one to be replaced with this, though.

[Unikraken]

>good fanon design

 

LOL

 

I hate the current CAR. It's so fucking ugly.

 

No, I don't think it's an actual canon model. I would like the current one to be replaced with this, though.

I'm open to something -like- this replacing the CAR, but it would need an update since book covers are generally concept art and the ship needs about a thousand years of technological updates to it to make it relevant.

[Crisiss]

I'm open to something -like- this replacing the CAR, but it would need an update since book covers are generally concept art and the ship needs about a thousand years of technological updates to it to make it relevant.

I'd like almost any change, really. I'd even take a scaled down old DDS model. I just hate the current CAR so much I don't even build it, I just build a second DDS. Not that that matters because after this new model is in I will build nothing but DDSs. The design is so ugly and synthetic, it doesn't look Covenant-like at all. What happened to the space whales we knew and loved?

[SternuS]

I'd like almost any change, really. I'd even take a scaled down old DDS model.

Join the Covenant! It's the scale up-scale down party over here!

CCS become smaller! CAS larger! With brand new names as CRS and P.l.o.t. D.e.v.i.c.e.!

Oh and there is also the RCS: a BRAND NEW ship! bascially a ccs scaled up

[SPECTRE]

Join the Covenant! It's the scale up-scale down party over here!

CCS become smaller! CAS larger! With brand new names as CRS and P.l.o.t. D.e.v.i.c.e.!

Oh and there is also the RCS: a BRAND NEW ship! bascially a ccs scaled up

YOU HEATHEN! HOW DARE YOU MENTION.... IT!

[Crisiss]

I dunno, I like the design changes on the RCS. It looks like it just has some ragtag upgrades done to it, kind of embodying the loss of the Covenant's production capacity, making them need quality over quantity more than before.

I, personally, would like to see this in game. It has only one energy projector compared to the CSS's two, and is more heavily armored and shielded.

I would also like to see this in in some capacity, hopefully with as good of a model as the DDS turned out: http://halo.wikia.co...e-class_cruiser

[Mendicant Bias]

I'm not sure what you're implying here but without further explanation I'll just make a guess

If there was a stellar collapse everything in the system would be rendered uninhabitable.

The Lore has been leaning to that being a lie and there could be millions more San Shyuum.