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#1 Requiem

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:14 AM

So it was said in the last news update that they would eventually be removing the mako and replacing the prowler model since the time line is being moved up to halo 3/4.

We'll I had an Idea.

How about having the timeline span the entire human covenant war up to where we are now.

That way we can keep the mako and original prowler in and have the new model prowler as a new slot later on in the tech tree.

That's just my idea because I really like the Human covenant war part of the halo saga and would be sad to see the mako go along with the original prowler

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:20 AM

I Think that Devs want to get the balance just right. I think that the insurrection could wield the mako, since they have to use old/recycled ships.


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:24 AM

I Think that Devs want to get the balance just right. I think that the insurrection could wield the mako, since they have to use old/recycled ships.


Yes but I would still like to play with it as part of the unsc fleet

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:46 AM

Wait devs, is the stalwart class going to be canonical and have a MAC?


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:52 AM

Wait devs, is the stalwart class going to be canonical and have a MAC?

http://halo.wikia.co...C_In_Amber_Clad



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:05 PM

So is that a yes or a no?


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:07 PM

So is that a yes or a no?

did you not read that wiki page? lol

 

The In Amber Clad, a stalwart-class, has a very similar armament to the charon and the paris. In fact, the stalwart is the middle ground in terms of armament between the other 2.



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:16 PM

You just sort of linked it,  which is an open ended question.

The charon class is more powerful than the stalwart, it has AA turrets, longer, and has Hyperion Nukes. Not to mention it's longer than the stalwart. Most of the time a longer ship denotes more firepower.

Not to mention the charon is a escort, whereas the stolly is a support vessel.

(exceptions being Monitors, Escort carriers, armored and auxiliary cruisers).


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:19 PM

The charon is a troop deployment vessel more than the others, hence the larger hangar and more cargo space. The paris has more armament than both, but the stalwart (in canon) has shivas on board. Last i checked, shiva > hyperion. The stalwart is a jack-of-all-trades ship, able to do the same things as the charon and paris, just the paris and charon do their respective jobs better than the stalwart.

 

furthermore, you asked if the stalwart was canonical and had a MAC. That link showed that it IS canonical, and that it DOES have a MAC.



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:22 PM

Jesus Christ Defender. He asked is it going to be canonical and have a MAC. He means, in the mod, is it still going to have a MAC even though it's the AA frigate for the second Rebellion release? Now answer his question.


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:46 PM

Defender you have them confused, the stolly is the troop transport, the charon is the multi role escort, and the paris is the straight up combat ship According to halo wiki.

And thanks Ember, I thought i was speaking tut-tut for a moment.


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:55 PM

Defender you have them confused, the stolly is the troop transport, the charon is the multi role escort, and the paris is the straight up combat ship According to halo wiki.

 

Then tell this to dianno, because hes going to have a field day with that



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:01 PM

http://halo.wikia.co...s_light_frigate

 

 

 

Troop transport/Fleet support

http://halo.wikia.co...s_light_frigate

 

 

 

Protection of larger fleet ship

http://halo.wikia.co...s_heavy_frigate

 

 

 

 

  • Atmospheric fire support
  • Fleet escort

Why else would you have the stolly as an AA frigate?

 
 


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:15 PM

Because what does escorting the fleet entail? Maybe, well I don't know, some AA fire to 'escort' the fleet to safety.

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:24 PM

An escort is descibred as:

 

A vessel smaller than the vessel it is escorting. Specializing in taking out targets smaller than the flagship.

So If a cruiser and escort came under attack by a vessel smaller than the cruiser the escort peels off, no longer becoming an escort.

Or at least that's the royal navies policy, leaving larger vessels to continue on with its objective of taking out a ship of same or larger classification.


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:35 PM

When would the ship ever stop being an escort? It's still escorting the larger ship, whether that's fending off strikecraft, engaging other frigates or traveling through the 11 something dimensions of slipspace, it's still escorting that ship.

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:36 PM

An escort is only an escort when in formation basically.


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:40 PM

So, by your logic, a fleet escort is only for show? May as well paint all the UNSC ships fuzzy wussy rainbow colours if we're only doing things for show now.

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:42 PM

So, by your logic, a fleet escort is only for show? May as well paint all the UNSC ships fuzzy wussy rainbow colours if we're only doing things for show now.

dont tempt dhoul, he'll bring out the rainbow MACs again


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:45 PM

This is not my logic, this is the royal navies logic. In the Royal navy An escort will only pull off to deal with enemies or unless its escort run has finished.


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