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[atlas117b]

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[Defender0]

Im 100% serious, i even showed it to dianno as canon proof of covenant defenses being almost nonexistant

[atlas117b]

I should point out that there is actually a cutscene in halo wars that supports the fact that covenant defended their planets with fleets of ships. Its the cutscene about the prophet of regret and the arbiter talking in the shield world, and the arbiter is ordered to kidnap professor anders. I can link it here if needed.

do it

[atlas117b]

Im 100% serious, i even showed it to dianno as canon proof of covenant defenses being almost nonexistant

ha... I agree with u. U just keep posting faster then I can load it on my phone

[Defender0]

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it is heavily implied by what they are saying that covenant fleets were the defenses of covenant planets.

[Dianno5741]

The idea is that if you had X planets connected to a star the covenant ships would be able to split their forces and due to their increases slipspace speed, you could literally get your fleet there to respond to whatever the UNSC would send, or send out multiple attacks of your own and sacrifice your planet for 4 of his. He needs to commit a decent number of ships and capital ships to attack a world even sparsley guarded by Covenant. That scenario is actually in favor of the covenant and if your worried about him jumping from one system to your sun, then defend your sun. Or go to his system and put him on the defensive. Your the covenant, if your worried about defense you are doing something wrong.

[atlas117b]

Yes it does. They have way more ships but remember halo 2 when that fleet jumps to delta halo, they were ther protecting HC. I was jusy thinking while sitting here, can u make CRUISERS that have no ftl drive? This wont work but how about just making the tactical slots build destroyers and cruisers with no ftl system? If the covies use only ships to defend this would keep the player from sending them with an attack force?

again, I am thinking of a better way of saying this but my hands cant type it out.

[atlas117b]

The idea is that if you had X planets connected to a star the covenant ships would be able to split their forces and due to their increases slipspace speed, you could literally get your fleet there to respond to whatever the UNSC would send, or send out multiple attacks of your own and sacrifice your planet for 4 of his. He needs to commit a decent number of ships and capital ships to attack a world even sparsley guarded by Covenant. That scenario is actually in favor of the covenant and if your worried about him jumping from one system to your sun, then defend your sun. Or go to his system and put him on the defensive. Your the covenant, if your worried about defense you are doing something wrong.

I love u..... man

[Defender0]

I think it should be pointed out that, except for dire circumstances, i dont even upgrade my tactical structure slots in the planet when im playing as covenant

[atlas117b]

I think it should be pointed out that, except for dire circumstances, i dont even upgrade my tactical structure slots in the planet when im playing as covenant

I used to be a play tester but that was over a year ago. I havent seen them glass a planet since canada first went to dropbox.

[atlas117b]

again, wont fly.... but i was wondering if instead of building a MAC, that spot with the covies would build you a DESTROYER with no FTL.  just a thought on how make defenses with ships (CANON) and not making defense platforms.

[KhevaKins]

High Charity had defenses, I am sure it is mentioned somewhere that it could rain hell down on any attacking fleet.

And in Kiol-Five they do say they have planet defenses, the effectiveness of these aren't mentioned though.

Forerunners had planet defenses and since the Covenant aim to be similar to the Forerunners it stands to reason they would of found at least some planet defense relics and emulated them.

 

[Bornstellaris]

High Charity had defenses, I am sure it is mentioned somewhere that it could rain hell down on any attacking fleet.And in Kiol-Five they do say they have planet defenses, the effectiveness of these aren't mentioned though.Forerunners had planet defenses and since the Covenant aim to be similar to the Forerunners it stands to reason they would of found at least some planet defense relics and emulated them.

My point exactly.

[Zero]

And in Kiol-Five they do say they have planet defenses, the effectiveness of these aren't mentioned though.

Wasn't that the bit talking about the orbital structures above Sangheillios?

[Unikraken]

Wasn't that the bit talking about the orbital structures above Sangheillios?

Yeah pretty sure they were talking about orbital hangars.

[Buttered]

Let's just put it this way people. You could get away with defending a planet with half a dozen cruisers and only have to worry when your opponent brings in a large fleet or a decent number of heavies. Even then, there's their slipspace speed which will allow reinforcement easily.

[SternuS]

I've read most of the Halo books and not once have I seen any reference to ship based defence platforms. In fact, the covenant do have defences and it is canon. The book Glasslands specifically states they have anti-ship/fighter defences orbiting their planet.

 

Did it state those defences were platforms? Maybe they had anti-ship/fighter Cruisers orbiting. I'm asking because I can't remember.

My point exactly.

Oh, High Charity has defenses, but I seriously doubt the Covenant ever tried to emulate some Forerunner defense platforms. At least, I can't remember any of them mentioned when the Hierophant was assaulted, nor when a Nova bomb disintegrated Joyous Exultation. I'm sorry, but I support the non-defense for the Covenant.

[Unikraken]

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0:30-0:42

 

it is heavily implied by what they are saying that covenant fleets were the defenses of covenant planets.

I have a better one:

 

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All ships. They swarm High Charity.

[KhevaKins]

Yeah pretty sure they were talking about orbital hangars.

 

 

Wasn't that the bit talking about the orbital structures above Sangheillios?

 

It is never actually stated what the defenses are or what there actual effectiveness is. They tell the Kilo-Five pelican if they go of course they will be instantly destroyed so it can be assumed it is/ they are range weapons of sorts.
"“Admiral, Sangheili traffic control’s sent up a couple of fighter escorts,” she said. “I’m just going to follow them in. Strict instructions not to deviate
from the flight corridor and to follow them straight to the landing platform in Vadam.”" (actual line in kilo-five)

Did it state those defences were platforms? Maybe they had anti-ship/fighter Cruisers orbiting. I'm asking because I can't remember.

Oh, High Charity has defenses, but I seriously doubt the Covenant ever tried to emulate some Forerunner defense platforms. At least, I can't remember any of them mentioned when the Hierophant was assaulted, nor when a Nova bomb disintegrated Joyous Exultation. I'm sorry, but I support the non-defense for the Covenant.

They found orbital structures above the lekgolo planet. If they didn't have defenses it would be difficult to put them on.
The entire Covenant premise is to emulate forerunner structures, thats like 2/5 of their religion is to do exactly that. That is how they got all their stuff in the first place.

[Emberblaque]

like 2/5 of their religion

That's a lotta religiona!