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[Defender0]

I still think a scaled down version of the halo rings "Purge devices" Would be ideal. Could try and incorporate some lore into them, calling them the prototype phase of the halo rings designed to purge a nearby planet of all life. However once they realized the rate of the flood infection was far too great they had to upscale the design for much more.... devastating effects. 

nope. When a picket force of forerunner cruisers can clear a system at the same rate, this kind of thing is too OP,

 

 

 

This is just an exhausted topic. We've considered a lot of possibilities, haven't decided upon one. Sternus is right in the case of the Halos being superweapons, and it's been said that superweapons aren't necessary for SotP because they are designed to break stalemates and it's a top design priority to prevent them in the first place. The most likely candidate seems to me to be the artifact world or whatever it's called in Rebellion, such that capturing a Halo is a victory condition. But who knows? We'll decide when the time comes.

[WarthogRacingMan3]

Then.... how about Halos are just another planet type that gives the player who controls one a special buff or artifact and allows sentinels to be built for defense in the gravity well that it is in?

[con7con]

I dont see why it cannot be used in the Lost Planet scenario with whoever holds the Halo for a certain length of time wins.

[Defender0]

I dont see why it cannot be used in the Lost Planet scenario with whoever holds the Halo for a certain length of time wins.

i would be ok with this personally

[Emberblaque]

That's what I meant earlier. I always thought it was the best option.

[Dianno5741]

TL;DNR

 

Short Story from the balance Dev. The forerunners will be pants poopingly powerful. Also balanced. How that is done? Like how we balance the UNSC and Cov. MAGIC. Thats all you need to know. Ass tons of magic and sacrifices on a scale that puts the aztecs to shame. So if you would like to know our secret, i will tell you right before Uni sacrifices you to make more MAGIC for me to use to balance stuff. Magic in this case is what comes out UNI after 24 hours having eaten your soul.

[Defender0]

MAGIC.

specifically, space magic

[Antigeist]

specifically, space magic

 

 

[Bornstellaris]

specifically, space magic

[XtremeRoflcopter]

Could just make all their infrastructure costs greater than covenant and unsc. meaning they will expand slower and won't be able to ramp up a production line anywhere near as fast unsc or the covenant. But that's just me. 

[m468]

Defender's got it under control he has got some very good ideas for balance. He has been quietly working on them like the mad scientist in the shadows while we were all focused on the UNSC v Covie stuff. 

[Defender0]

like the mad scientist in the shadows 

appropriate simile

[spartan-G257]

and i used to help him...

 

damn it I'm editing my file to allow me to play forerunners again... Defender can you send me the implementations of the forerunners for beta testing (on my own).... strangely I now feel like doing an evil laugh however the evil overlord list says i should not as it distracts me therefore I will not.

[Bornstellaris]

appropriate simile

And I'm the one helping bring his creations to life.

[spartan-G257]

OK I'm back and i have changed the Player file hip hip horray

[Defender0]

And I'm the one helping bring his creations to life.

You provide the vessel, I put the OP into it seems like a good combo

 

 

and i used to help him...
 
damn it I'm editing my file to allow me to play forerunners again... Defender can you send me the implementations of the forerunners for beta testing (on my own).... strangely I now feel like doing an evil laugh however the evil overlord list says i should not as it distracts me therefore I will not.

Wouldnt do much good, most of my changes are cosmetic and are uncommitted. I need a basic balance ratio between forerunners and UNSC (covenant would need ~1/3rd as many ships as UNSC to win due to 3:1 ratio) before ALPHA testing can begin. And I have stressed that this is low priority until UNSC vs covenant is releasable.

TL;DR theyre not ready yet

[spartan-G257]

well it doesn't really scale that well between frigates as we know how bad forerunner frigates are damage wise... so how about ever 6 forerunner frigates = 1 UNSC frigate

 

but cruisers that is where everything goes into full ear for the forerunners and i would say the exact opposite for the frigate ratio possibly even worse with every 6-9 UNSC cruisers to 1 forerunner cruiser.

 

and then a 6-1 ration with forerunners cap ships compared to the UNSC super-carriers (we all know how overpowered those beasts are (damage wise)

 

this would all be damage output and health wise not construction costs and construction time therefore this would give the UNSC a chance (although we all know in cannon it is the same overpowered but the ship build rate is also horrible skewed for the forerunners)

 

this is all an estimated idea of the ratio's i know it would probably not go like this

[m468]

Move that forerunner balancing stuff to the play tester area and as of now we have more pressing things to deal with

[Metanator]

Slightly confused as to why the Forerunner frigates are so crap? Shouldn't the 6 Forerunner to 1 UNSC be reversed due to the Forerunners tech advantage?

[Moustachio86]

Forerunner frigates are sentinels. While the forerunner capital ships are individually overwhelming, the frigates display technical prowess by being mass produced.
Evidence can be seen that Onyx's surface was made of trillions of sentinels. And also 10 weaker ships will deal much better against the flood than 1 massively powerful one.